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Post by strutsagget on Dec 8, 2018 19:28:34 GMT
So thinking of painting my Orion and hounds model but need help on howto field him and play him.
I think 2x6 wildriders as mandatory as playing with the hounds.
Orion
Wood Elves
Orion: 2 Hounds of Orion 620
Spellsinger: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Shadow; Asrai longbow 120
Spellsinger: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Shadow; Asrai longbow 120
Glade Captain: Battle Standard Bearer; Asrai spear; starfire shafts; Hail of Doom Arrow; Enchanted Shield; Ironcurse Icon 146
17 Glade Guard: musician; trueflight arrows 265
29 Eternal Guard: Eternal Warden; musician; standard bearer; shields 378
6 Wild Riders: Wild Hunter; musician; standard bearer; shields 198
6 Wild Riders: Wild Hunter; musician; standard bearer; shields 198
12 Deepwood Scouts: musician; hagbane tips 202
10 Waywatchers 200
Great Eagle 50
2 497 points
EDIT: 25% HEROES AND LORDS
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Post by knoffles on Dec 8, 2018 20:04:29 GMT
Looks good to me. I have to say I never quite got the hounds though. Not sure if they are worth the points (or perhaps could never fit them in) or am I missing something?
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Post by strutsagget on Dec 8, 2018 20:14:27 GMT
Looks good to me. I have to say I never quite got the hounds though. Not sure if they are worth the points (or perhaps could never fit them in) or am I missing something? Well, they got six ws4 s4 attacks on charge for 20p. Probably not worth it  but think they are mandatory if I go Orion 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by knoffles on Dec 8, 2018 20:27:16 GMT
Ok that makes it clearer 😀. I need to find some alternative hounds though as have the 5th edition version and he didn’t come with any.
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Post by sedge on Dec 8, 2018 22:43:52 GMT
I've only used Orion the once - he smashed half a Dark Elf army, but ended the game with just a single wound. He causes an immense amount of damage, but is incredibly fragile. I'd say the hounds are vital - 20 points may seem a lot, but for adding an extra couple of wounds to a 600 point unit, it's worth it.
It was a few years ago I used him, so I can't remember much of my list, but I definitely also went with two Wild Rider units.
You could try a mobile Lore of Life caster to follow him around and restore wounds with the lore attribute, but the lore isn't great for low level casters so it's probably not worth it. The double Miasma from your shadowsingers should help to hinder any BS-based shooting that may target him.
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Post by knoffles on Dec 10, 2018 9:14:32 GMT
What’s the range on ice shard blizzard, I see the other danger being war machines so neutralising them might also be key
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Post by strutsagget on Dec 10, 2018 9:32:00 GMT
Ok that makes it clearer 😀. I need to find some alternative hounds though as have the 5th edition version and he didn’t come with any. Oh I think the primary use is to distribute shooting attacks, so the hounds take some hits. For example 30 HE bows 20 hit distribute 7-6-7 and Orion should live |
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Post by strutsagget on Dec 12, 2018 17:52:55 GMT
So I think that a unit benefitting from Orions devastating charges is captain on a great stag. I also think it's fluffy to include not sure how to get the points though. Would like to field two Stag Rider Captain Great Stag, Shield, Asrai Spear, Armor of Destiny Or Great Stag, Asrai Spear, Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield” Also think packing a BSB will benefit all the frenzy units with rerolls. |
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Post by sedge on Dec 12, 2018 19:47:13 GMT
It's good to have something (aside from the Hounds/Orion themselves) that benefits from Devastating Charge, as the Wild Riders obviously have it already and there's not much else in the way of decent combat units that can keep up.
Helm of the Hunt is the iconic Stag Rider magic item, but obviously pointless in this case as you'll get Devastating Charge anyway. I think the Armour of Destiny option is better than having the Charmed Shield (your unit can take the hit most the time). Glittering Scales/Sword of Might could be an interesting combo if against low Leadership armies who might fail their Fear tests, but I don't think it's a better choice.
Drop the Glade Captain on foot for him, mount your Spellsingers, and drop the Glade Guard + Eternal Guard for Glade Riders, and you've got a full-on Wild Hunt.
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Post by knoffles on Dec 13, 2018 7:54:33 GMT
Would warhawks benefit from the devastating charge? Another 3 killing blow attacks are nothing to be sniffed at.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Dec 14, 2018 17:02:59 GMT
Yes.
Wood Elves AB p. 55: At the start of each turn, the Horn of the Wild Hunt grants the Devastating Charge special rule to Orion, his unit, and all friendly Wood Elf units within 6". This lasts until the end of that turn.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Dec 15, 2018 14:40:27 GMT
So I think that a unit benefitting from Orions devastating charges is captain on a great stag. I also think it's fluffy to include not sure how to get the points though. Would like to field two Stag Rider Captain Great Stag, Shield, Asrai Spear, Armor of Destiny Or Great Stag, Asrai Spear, Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield” Also think packing a BSB will benefit all the frenzy units with rerolls. The answer as to whether to include a captain on a great stag is always YES!!! Perfect for an Orion army. |
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Post by emrico on Dec 17, 2018 19:22:28 GMT
Nice!
I do miss that when they redid the WE book for 8th that they did away with the special rule for Orion that made Wild Riders core if he was the General. My first WE army was an Orion army one year for Adepticon and I have 24 of the metal Wild Riders painted (4 units of 6) and it is almost impossible to use them all now unless I can find someone to play a really huge game.
Jim
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Post by strutsagget on Dec 18, 2018 9:19:01 GMT
Nice! I do miss that when they redid the WE book for 8th that they did away with the special rule for Orion that made Wild Riders core if he was the General. My first WE army was an Orion army one year for Adepticon and I have 24 of the metal Wild Riders painted (4 units of 6) and it is almost impossible to use them all now unless I can find someone to play a really huge game. Jim That would be soo sweet! I only have 21 😂 5 of the old metal that I do like. Still, need to paint 9 and repaint 5. |
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 10, 2019 17:24:51 GMT
So played my first Orion game this weekend and will play my second game tomorrow.
First list won against DE but found rangers to few;
Orion
Wood Elves
Orion: 2 Hounds of Orion 620
Glade Captain: Battle Standard Bearer; great weapon; Hail of Doom Arrow 134
Spellsinger: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Shadow; Dispel Scroll 140
Spellsinger: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Beasts 115
27 Eternal Guard: Eternal Warden; musician; standard bearer 327
12 Dryads: Branch Nymph 142
12 Dryads: Branch Nymph 142
21 Wildwood Rangers: Wildwood Warden; musician; standard bearer 261
3 Warhawk Riders 135
12 Deepwood Scouts: hagbane tips 192
12 Deepwood Scouts: trueflight arrows 192
Great Eagle 50
Great Eagle 50
2 500 points
Second list vs Lizardmen;
Orion V2
Wood Elves
Orion: 2 Hounds of Orion 620
Glade Captain: Battle Standard Bearer; great weapon; Hail of Doom Arrow 134
Spellsinger: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Shadow; Dispel Scroll 140
Spellsinger: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Beasts 115
29 Eternal Guard: Eternal Warden; musician; standard bearer; shields 378
12 Dryads 132
12 Dryads 132
3 Warhawk Riders: Wind Rider 145
12 Deepwood Scouts: hagbane tips 192
12 Deepwood Scouts: trueflight arrows 192
8 Waywatchers 160
8 Waywatchers 160
2 500 points
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but think they are mandatory if I go Orion 🤷🏻♂️
