Post by crownprinceimrik on Sept 22, 2019 19:57:23 GMT
Sheffield Game 3
Last one of Sheffield! I was mid-tier now and up against Warriors of Chaos.
Warriors of Chaos:
Kholek Suneater
Throgg the Troll King
4x Dragon Ogres w/ Great Weapons
Chimera w/ Flaming Breath, Regeneration
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth w/ Great Weapon
14x Forsaken of Khorne
11x Chaos Trolls
6x Chaos Ogres w/ Great Weapons, possibly Mark of Khorne?
Game: Blood and Glory
Deployment:
The Dragon Ogres held the Chaos right with the Shaggoth and the Chimera behind and to the left. The Forsaken held the center with Kholek to their left and the Troll block to their left and the Chaos Ogres anchored the far left flank. I countered with the Star Dragon on my far left next to the Dragon Princes and the Silver Helms to their right. The Reavers were on my far left as well and the Spearmen were in the dead center with both Frosthearts. The Reavers vanguarded forwards up the left.
Initial Thoughts:
This is a bad match-up for me. My army relies on high toughness and high armor saves to stay alive, this Chaos army is all but designed to destroy armies like mine. He's got swarms of S6+ and the Trolls can ignore armor. Kholek is also one of the only models in the game that can engage a Star Dragon Lord in a 1v1 fight and come out on top. I have to attack hard and try to multi-charge all of his units for any chance of success.
High Elves Turn 1:
The Reavers shunted forwards and the Star Dragon aggressively moved to flank the Chaos line. Both Frosthearts moved left fast to support a left hook attack and the Dragon Princes shuffled forwards.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 1:
The Dragon Ogres hold station while the Chimera moved around and immolated most of the Reavers. The Forsaken, Kholek, and Ogres moved forwards at full speed while the Shaggoth and Trolls reformed to face the incoming left hook. Kholek's lightning attack killed 4 Silver Helms and panicked them.
High Elves Turn 2:
The Star Dragon hit the Dragon Ogres while the Dragon Princes failed to join them. One Frostheart moved to support them and the Silver Helms rallied. The Spearmen and the other Frostheart both charged the Forsaken, the Spearmen to escape from Kholek and the Frostheart to help the Spearmen out. The Star Dragon killed one of the Dragon Ogres, while the Forsaken absolutely decimated the Spearmen, killing 12 of them at the cost of only 3 Forsaken. The Spearmen held and the Phoenix fled.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 2:
Kholek charged the Frostheart who fled and then redirected to the Spearmen, who were all slaughtered promptly. Kholek's lightning attack also killed two Dragon Princes. The Dragon Ogres lost another body and they fled but escaped pursuit. The Chimera moved to flank the Dragon Princes.
High Elves Turn 3:
The Dragon Princes advanced quickly in an attempt to escape the charge arc of the Chimera, but failed. The Frostheart rallied and the Silver Helms moved to the left to avoid the approaching Ogres and hopefully engage the Chimera. The Star Dragon forced the Dragon Ogres to flee again and then tried to charge the Shaggoth, but he fled as well. The Reavers moved to redirect the Trolls.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 3:
The Chimera rear charged the Dragon Princes and Kholek turned to face the Star Dragon. The Trolls charged and destroyed the Reavers. The Ogres continued to advance to try and do something. The Dragon Ogres fled off the board and the Shaggoth rallied. The Chimera killed the BSB and took no damage.
High Elves Turn 4:
The Frostheart failed his charge to rescue the Dragon Princes. The Star Dragon and other Frostheart charged the Troll group and in combat killed Throgg but not before the Star Dragon took 3 wounds from Throgg's breath weapon. The Chimera was injured but killed many more Dragon Princes.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 4:
Kholek charged the Frostheart and killed it and overran into the Star Dragon. The Forsaken charged the Dragon Princes and together with the Chimera killed it.
My memory now gets very fuzzy and my pictures end, so here's a summary of what happened in the rest of the game:
Kholek would kill the Star Dragon and Prince, I believe the Chimera was killed by a dual charge of the Frostheart and the Silver Helms, but the Silver Helms would be destroyed by the Forsaken and the Frostheart fled from Kholek and then failed to rally and left the table.
0-20 Defeat
Thoughts:
This game went very badly! I will say my opponent rolled above average through the whole game, but that isn't the primary cause for my defeat. I definitely made some mistakes here, charging the Forsaken was a bad idea that cost me my magic phase and kept a Frostheart out of the game until it was no longer relevant. I had judged Forsaken based on their reputation as I have never faced them, and at least in this game their reputation was entirely undeserved as they slaughtered the Spearmen without the Spearmen killing any of them and then also slaughtered the surviving Silver Helms. Charging the Trolls was possibly a mistake, they would be steadfast but I was confident that I'd win combat and was hoping they would break, which was admittedly unlikely. Looking at the images, I think there was a slight chance I could have charged Kholek with the Frostheart and the Star Dragon both, and that would have been by far the better move. Just looking at pictures I cannot determine for certain if they were in charge arc, though. I think the Dragon Princes failing their charge on the Dragon Ogres was huge as was the Frostheart failing to rescue the Dragon Princes. All of that said, the enemy's list was an extremely tough match-up for me, and I'm not entirely sure how to fight it. I've never really faced an army that was so perfectly counter to mine in that they had nothing but high strength which is exactly what I don't want to be facing, so I'm certain that I could have played it better if I was given a second run at it and had more time to think about it.
Post Tournament Thoughts
Last one of Sheffield! I was mid-tier now and up against Warriors of Chaos.
Warriors of Chaos:
Kholek Suneater
Throgg the Troll King
4x Dragon Ogres w/ Great Weapons
Chimera w/ Flaming Breath, Regeneration
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth w/ Great Weapon
14x Forsaken of Khorne
11x Chaos Trolls
6x Chaos Ogres w/ Great Weapons, possibly Mark of Khorne?
Game: Blood and Glory
Deployment:
The Dragon Ogres held the Chaos right with the Shaggoth and the Chimera behind and to the left. The Forsaken held the center with Kholek to their left and the Troll block to their left and the Chaos Ogres anchored the far left flank. I countered with the Star Dragon on my far left next to the Dragon Princes and the Silver Helms to their right. The Reavers were on my far left as well and the Spearmen were in the dead center with both Frosthearts. The Reavers vanguarded forwards up the left.
Initial Thoughts:
This is a bad match-up for me. My army relies on high toughness and high armor saves to stay alive, this Chaos army is all but designed to destroy armies like mine. He's got swarms of S6+ and the Trolls can ignore armor. Kholek is also one of the only models in the game that can engage a Star Dragon Lord in a 1v1 fight and come out on top. I have to attack hard and try to multi-charge all of his units for any chance of success.
High Elves Turn 1:
The Reavers shunted forwards and the Star Dragon aggressively moved to flank the Chaos line. Both Frosthearts moved left fast to support a left hook attack and the Dragon Princes shuffled forwards.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 1:
The Dragon Ogres hold station while the Chimera moved around and immolated most of the Reavers. The Forsaken, Kholek, and Ogres moved forwards at full speed while the Shaggoth and Trolls reformed to face the incoming left hook. Kholek's lightning attack killed 4 Silver Helms and panicked them.
High Elves Turn 2:
The Star Dragon hit the Dragon Ogres while the Dragon Princes failed to join them. One Frostheart moved to support them and the Silver Helms rallied. The Spearmen and the other Frostheart both charged the Forsaken, the Spearmen to escape from Kholek and the Frostheart to help the Spearmen out. The Star Dragon killed one of the Dragon Ogres, while the Forsaken absolutely decimated the Spearmen, killing 12 of them at the cost of only 3 Forsaken. The Spearmen held and the Phoenix fled.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 2:
Kholek charged the Frostheart who fled and then redirected to the Spearmen, who were all slaughtered promptly. Kholek's lightning attack also killed two Dragon Princes. The Dragon Ogres lost another body and they fled but escaped pursuit. The Chimera moved to flank the Dragon Princes.
High Elves Turn 3:
The Dragon Princes advanced quickly in an attempt to escape the charge arc of the Chimera, but failed. The Frostheart rallied and the Silver Helms moved to the left to avoid the approaching Ogres and hopefully engage the Chimera. The Star Dragon forced the Dragon Ogres to flee again and then tried to charge the Shaggoth, but he fled as well. The Reavers moved to redirect the Trolls.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 3:
The Chimera rear charged the Dragon Princes and Kholek turned to face the Star Dragon. The Trolls charged and destroyed the Reavers. The Ogres continued to advance to try and do something. The Dragon Ogres fled off the board and the Shaggoth rallied. The Chimera killed the BSB and took no damage.
High Elves Turn 4:
The Frostheart failed his charge to rescue the Dragon Princes. The Star Dragon and other Frostheart charged the Troll group and in combat killed Throgg but not before the Star Dragon took 3 wounds from Throgg's breath weapon. The Chimera was injured but killed many more Dragon Princes.
Warriors of Chaos Turn 4:
Kholek charged the Frostheart and killed it and overran into the Star Dragon. The Forsaken charged the Dragon Princes and together with the Chimera killed it.
My memory now gets very fuzzy and my pictures end, so here's a summary of what happened in the rest of the game:
Kholek would kill the Star Dragon and Prince, I believe the Chimera was killed by a dual charge of the Frostheart and the Silver Helms, but the Silver Helms would be destroyed by the Forsaken and the Frostheart fled from Kholek and then failed to rally and left the table.
0-20 Defeat
Thoughts:
This game went very badly! I will say my opponent rolled above average through the whole game, but that isn't the primary cause for my defeat. I definitely made some mistakes here, charging the Forsaken was a bad idea that cost me my magic phase and kept a Frostheart out of the game until it was no longer relevant. I had judged Forsaken based on their reputation as I have never faced them, and at least in this game their reputation was entirely undeserved as they slaughtered the Spearmen without the Spearmen killing any of them and then also slaughtered the surviving Silver Helms. Charging the Trolls was possibly a mistake, they would be steadfast but I was confident that I'd win combat and was hoping they would break, which was admittedly unlikely. Looking at the images, I think there was a slight chance I could have charged Kholek with the Frostheart and the Star Dragon both, and that would have been by far the better move. Just looking at pictures I cannot determine for certain if they were in charge arc, though. I think the Dragon Princes failing their charge on the Dragon Ogres was huge as was the Frostheart failing to rescue the Dragon Princes. All of that said, the enemy's list was an extremely tough match-up for me, and I'm not entirely sure how to fight it. I've never really faced an army that was so perfectly counter to mine in that they had nothing but high strength which is exactly what I don't want to be facing, so I'm certain that I could have played it better if I was given a second run at it and had more time to think about it.
Post Tournament Thoughts
I did very badly at this event, I believe I was 20/24 or something like that, which is a shame. I think I was hampered a bit in the second game by the time limit, and then was out-matched by my opponent's tactics and list in the third game. The first game I think I had some bad luck which tipped it against me, but there were also likely mistakes that I made and my opponent handled Mannfred very well to cast the game-deciding spell near the end. I also think my list adjustment was a poor one, I should have kept the Archers. They could fight just as well as the Spearmen for Games 1 and 2 and would give a bit of help in Game 3 at least in preventing me from trying to use them as a combat unit to fight the Forsaken. Overall, I think my showing at this event was a bit poor, I'm quite displeased with my Game 3 performance and I also think I should have done better in Game 1 considering the lists involved.
All that said, the event was very fun and was filled with great people! It was also a nice change to see three different scenarios used instead of just Battleline being played.