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Post by gangland on Apr 10, 2019 4:05:07 GMT
So I maybe going up against Dwarfs Friday. Very casual game. I just got my Ogre army so I am semi limited in what I have currently, but here is my list anyway:
Lords [345pts] Slaughtermaster [345pts] Selections: Lore of the Great Maw, Wizard Level 4 [35pts] Magic Items [60pts] Selections: BRB - Fencer's Blades [35pts], BRB - Glittering Scales [25pts]
Heroes [193pts] Bruiser [193pts] Selections: Heavy Armour [4pts], Ironfist [4pts] Battle Standard Bearer [40pts] Selections: BRB - Lichebone Pennant [15pts] Magic Items and Big Names [40pts] Selections: BRB - Dragonhelm [10pts], BRB - Talisman of Endurance [30pts]
Core [532pts] Ogres [532pts] Selections: Bellower [10pts], Champion [10pts] 16x Ogres [512pts] Selections: 16x Ironfists [32pts]
Special [731pts] Leadbelchers [258pts] Selections: 6x Leadbelchers [258pts]
Leadbelchers [258pts] Selections: 6x Leadbelchers [258pts]
Leadbelchers [215pts] Selections: 5x Leadbelchers [215pts]
Rare [200pts] Giant [200pts]
I know I’m over by 1pt but my opponent is ok with it (casual game between friends plus he is probably over as well lol) I have access to more Ogres, Ironguts, leadbelchers, and 20 gnoblers. I was thinking of trying to fit in 2 units of gnoblers to control deployment a bit but I’m not sure what to nuke for them. Giant is non negotiable he stays. I do have Mournfang but they are unassembled at the moment (just got them). But let me know how my list looks and what could be better with what I have.
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Post by vintageof79 on Apr 10, 2019 6:24:17 GMT
Bearing in mind this is a friendly game and trying to avoid changing the flavour of the list here are a few tweaks (and one definitive change) to consider:
- The BSB is illegal, you need to make the choice of magic standard or magic items. As it is the single most important model to ogres, especially in light of a lack of Banner of Discipline, I would equip it defensively. My recommendation would be Talisman of Preservation and Enchanted Shield.
- If you have sabretusks I would reduce your five man unit to fit in 2. They are some of the best value redirectors/war machine hunters in the game.
- It might be worth thinking about giving musicians to all the Leadbelchers, the ability to swift reform is very useful. You would have to lose another model in order to do this.
Other than that, I have play with similar lists - a walking gun-line is quite fun and gives dwarfs a taste of their own medicine.
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Post by vintageof79 on Apr 10, 2019 6:34:23 GMT
And just to get this off my chest, I prefer core to be Ironguts with a Banner of Discipline as it gives you leadership 9.
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Post by gangland on Apr 10, 2019 21:12:08 GMT
Interesting point on the bsb. Battlescribe doesn’t even point that out. I can run Ironguts as core but I am not a fan of ASL. I’ll consider the musicians. No Sabertusks though, something to add to the army at some point.Thank you for the pointers.
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Post by gregr on Apr 10, 2019 22:12:54 GMT
In terms of the Ironguts. I wouldn't be worried about ASL if you have a low initiative. I run a lot of my dwarf units with great weapons as with I2 there's not a lot I'm going to best on speed so would rather have the +2 strength if chances are I'm striking last anyway
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Post by gangland on Apr 11, 2019 4:36:38 GMT
One other issue with the Ironguts is their cost, they are more expensive so a hoard of them will put me way over. I am tweaking a few things with the list based on suggestions. Will post an update when I’m happy with it.
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Post by gangland on Apr 12, 2019 16:53:28 GMT
Alright still a little over (4pts) but shouldn’t be a problem. On top of that we have to postpone our game a week anyway but still doesn’t hurt to have a list ready. Here is what I changed up:
Lords [345pts] Slaughtermaster [345pts] Selections: Lore of the Great Maw, Wizard Level 4 [35pts] Magic Items [60pts] Selections: BRB - Fencer's Blades [35pts], BRB - Glittering Scales [25pts]
Heroes [184pts] Bruiser [184pts] Selections: Battle Standard Bearer [25pts], Heavy Armour [4pts] Magic Items and Big Names [50pts] Selections: BRB - Enchanted Shield [5pts], BRB - Talisman of Preservation [45pts]
Core [557pts]
Gnoblers [25pts] Selections: 10x Gnoblars [25pts]
Ogres [532pts] Selections: Bellower [10pts], Champion [10pts] 16x Ogres [512pts] Selections: 16x Ironfists [32pts]
Special [718pts]
Leadbelchers [268pts] Selections: Bellower [10pts], 6x Leadbelchers [258pts]
Leadbelchers [225pts] Selections: Bellower [10pts], 5x Leadbelchers [215pts]
Leadbelchers [225pts] Selections: Bellower [10pts], 5x Leadbelchers [215pts]
Rare [200pts] Giant [200pts]
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Post by vintageof79 on Apr 13, 2019 9:24:10 GMT
It is a fun list. Iron guts Vs ogres is a choice between attacks & wounds and strength & option to take magic standard, and in fairness given that you will 'tenderise' his units first, ogres is perhaps a better option. You will be going at the same time as him (or before if they are equipped with gw's), plus you have stomps. With a buff of some description you should be able to win most combats against any hordes he may have, especially if you charge.
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Post by frozenfood on Apr 18, 2019 18:47:53 GMT
Did you win?
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Post by gangland on Apr 19, 2019 6:08:15 GMT
I think we are playing this tomorrow. Had to postpone it last Friday but I did play 40k. Not that I didn’t want to play Fantasy but Friday couldn’t work for me.
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