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Post by Horace on Mar 15, 2017 17:34:08 GMT
Warhammer community is their new web destination for community interaction. www.warhammer-community.com/Also a youtube channel exists under the same name which I follow for the very very good painting videos by Duncan. The main web page has the videos but also some cool features on fan painted minis, conversions and other stuff. I like the improved approach to community interaction a lot. Seriously though does this thing from 8th ed look like it should fly? www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/GyrocopterNope and i don't like them mine are the 4th/5th ones
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Post by frozenfood on Mar 15, 2017 18:14:55 GMT
Terminator dwarfs after terminator orcs...at least they are consistent.
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Post by roughtimes on Mar 15, 2017 19:02:46 GMT
Warhammer community is their new web destination for community interaction. www.warhammer-community.com/Also a youtube channel exists under the same name which I follow for the very very good painting videos by Duncan. The main web page has the videos but also some cool features on fan painted minis, conversions and other stuff. I like the improved approach to community interaction a lot. Seriously though does this thing from 8th ed look like it should fly? www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/GyrocopterThe gyrocopter has always been super dumb. I never realized it until a non Warhammer player saw a pic of it in my dwarf book and burst out laughing. He thought it was the silliest thing.
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Post by askaval30 on Mar 15, 2017 19:42:51 GMT
Well, for once they've released an army that finally implies the passage of time between the death of the Old World and AoS...
I get the design choice, I can even congratulate them on the markedly different paths dwarves have taken in the setting... steampunk dwarves vs angry dwarves. Still neither of these newborn ideas can hope to hold a candle to decades worth of dwarf lore in RPGs, books and film that I base *my* mental image of a dwarf on, but then again I am old and not their target audience. I understand.
I might grab a couple of models to represent particularly eccentric engineers, might even grab an airship and use it with Long Drong's pirates for a nice themed army (assuming I can get rid of the damned metal balloons... metal balloons.... really?!)
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Post by askaval30 on Mar 15, 2017 19:44:53 GMT
another thing that gets me: just like the sigmarines not a single face to be found...
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Post by mottdon on Mar 15, 2017 21:14:14 GMT
In all of those images I only count 3 axes and 2 steampunk hammers. That's not Dwarf at all. Now, I get that they are tech-oriented army, but other than heavy armour and artillery, there's nothing Dwarf about them. I like steampunk imagery, but don't call it fantasy.
The thing that bothers me the most about new stuff like this is that it doesn't work with 8th edition armies at all. When they introduced AoS, they said that it works with 8th edition armies and used the same models as a way of pushing their new game. They didn't want to introduce all of their armies all at once because they would be admitting that it was a completely different game with different rules and models. They would lose the majority of their fantasy customers and those that didn't see through this marketing ploy would slowly be integrated into their new game. With every army like this that is released, it becomes more and more evident that any existing fantasy armies will quickly become obsolete in the face of these new, better equipped armies. Integrate or die.
AoS is just another, slightly more primitive 40K.
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Post by Baronthehumbled on Mar 16, 2017 2:44:48 GMT
Well since 40k is advanced fantasy I'd say we've come full circle. Also, you're kinda overlooking the Battletomes beefing up the old fantasy armies into new AoS ones that the Grand Alliance books establish like the bonesplittaz and Skyhawk Agents. Until the far, far future when 8th edition models show there age I think we're good. Personally looking forward to a Azyrheim Lancehost battletome. All Order cavalry made into a human and Elf knight order? Yes please. They live in a air-space filled with toxic magic and poisonous gas from a realm with mercury water. It's either cover your face or lose it. In what hellish universe of blind model-makers could that be considered a compliment?! o.o Edit: Oh, neat conversation I had on Dakka.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Mar 16, 2017 15:18:48 GMT
Well... As a dwarf purist I hate this release.
Assault cannons and chainswords.... These are not dwarfs and I'm not interested in any of the models at all with the exception of the harpoon prow mounted airship which is the closest to a 'fantasy' model.
I hate these guys for Warhammer fantasy and I hate them for AOS. They are more futuristic than half of the 40k armies.
As a 40k release (which this is model wise) I'd actually be completely behind this as a new faction..... or is it really a new faction at all?
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Post by grandmasterwang on Mar 16, 2017 15:20:12 GMT
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Post by Anaris on Mar 16, 2017 15:35:47 GMT
Well played. I almost believed it was real till I saw the side binding was aos then I realized you merely pasted over the front lol. That was good. For about 5 seconds I believed they brought squats back lol.
Damn that does look way more 40k.
I did hear rumours they are trying to make 40k and fantasy into one system. Probably too trying to make them compatible.
Stupid but it is ok marketing 🤥
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Post by gjnoronh on Mar 16, 2017 16:53:33 GMT
I don't think they are going to mix them like Warmachine does. But 8th 40K may actually be released in the next three months maybe April. We'll find out soon.
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Post by Horace on Mar 16, 2017 16:57:57 GMT
I don't think they will mix the games, just the philosophy.
Dumbed down games with more churn and burn on the miniatures
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Post by Baronthehumbled on Mar 16, 2017 18:05:47 GMT
It'd be better than the current bloated mess that 40k is now. Free rules are also a plus. I don't recall metal top-hats, sea-themed airships or balloon infantry from the past so I'd say yes. Now if they were bikers then we'd be talking. Definitely helps that 40k took alot of inspirations from steampunk, fantasy and Napoleonic genres. Pure troll rumors. Nothing in AoS would stand a chance in 40k and the settings are completely different. Making 40k more like AoS is most likely the goal.
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Post by mottdon on Mar 17, 2017 14:45:08 GMT
No, I don't think that they are trying to merge 40K and AoS, but they are definitely trying to make Fantasy play and look just like 40K. 40K is their cash cow and they want AoS to be just as profitable. If they can get all the 40K enthusiasts to buy AoS, then they've achieved their goal.
Unfortunately, that means all the former Fantasy players who like the 8th system of play (like us) get left behind.
And I'm like you, Grandmasterwang, the only one I could possibly see playing is the one with the huge harpoon on the prow. If there was a good alternate for the metal balloon (40K concept), then it that might be plausible.
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Post by dannytee on Mar 18, 2017 23:43:02 GMT
100% agree with mottdon. They do look good, cool models. But no way I will be adding these to my dwarf army. These are squats in my opinion. They fit in with the stormcast eternal look so go with the aos vibe some where in a high tech fantasy setting.
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