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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 17, 2017 21:57:27 GMT
One can never trust a Skaven player. I am not quite sure yet: do they become shifty, because they play Skaven, or do they play Skaven, because they are shifty in the first place...
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 18, 2017 12:02:17 GMT
"I did notice however the rule and FAQ are wrong about the Chalice of potions - the comet is now number 5 in the heavens list but I'll discuss this with my opponent before the game begins."
Applying the two Errata (Bretonnia Official Update Version 1.6, p.3), the rules for the Chalice now read:
At any point during each Bretonnian Magic phase, the Fay Enchantress may peer into the Chalice and stir up magical power to use against her foes. Roll a D6 each time the Chalice is used. The number refers to which spell is automatically cast from the Lore of Heavens as a Bound Spell (at the Power Level equal to the
minimum casting value for the spell. This requires no power dice and cannot be increased in any way). However, if a 6 is rolled, the Chalice runs out of power after the spell is cast and cannot be used for the remainder of the battle. [changes in italics]
Also, regarding the Banner of the Lady:
Bretonnia Official Update Version 1.6, p.1:
Page 63 – Magic Items, The Banner of the Lady.
Change the second paragraph to read ‘All enemy units with at least one model in base contact with the bearer of the Banner of the Lady are disrupted (see page 52 of the Warhammer rulebook). Furthermore, Skaven units in base contact with the Banner of the Lady cannot use their Strength in Numbers special rule whilst they remain in base contact with the bearer of the Banner of the Lady.’
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Post by frozenfood on Aug 18, 2017 12:47:07 GMT
Used the Enchantress once...rolled a six
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Aug 19, 2017 9:30:21 GMT
I'd agree with my opponent once the Fay was deployed and her abilities discussed. Obviously the banner of the lady was taken to negate the enemy ranks and as such affect their leadership but he still had more ranks than I did so could claim steadfast, sure he failed it (the leadership test) but with the BSB reroll he obviously rolled again but lower than the first
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Greg
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 19, 2017 12:06:05 GMT
Well, the Errata have dispensed with the need to discuss the abilities of the Chalice with your opponent.
For the sake of completeness: The Fay Enchantress now counts as a Lord choice (instead of Lord + Hero). and you ignore the sentence "Remember that even though both Silvaron and the Enchantress have magic resistance, only one of them may add their dice into dispelling a spell affecting them.”
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Aug 19, 2017 17:49:03 GMT
Well, the Errata have dispensed with the need to discuss the abilities of the Chalice with your opponent.” thank you for that, so I'll get to cast comet and not lose the chalice, seems a bit odd as they said about a particular spell and die result and now its more about the die roll than as intended, the comet being the conclusion. Not that anyone's going to quarrel about it now with GW Greg |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 19, 2017 20:27:29 GMT
The Bretonnia AB was 7th edition, and in the 7th Edition of the Lore of Heavens the Comet was the 6th spell. Chain Lightning did not exist; it is also arguably a more potent spell, in the sense that the caster has more control over it, and the results are more predictable.
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Aug 19, 2017 20:36:34 GMT
& as the comet doesn't land on that first turn mobile armies just move out of the area of effect.
I like rule discussions but really want to prove it to others not just taking someone's word for it.
I know I made a couple of errors that may have affected the outcome. Random movers and the Green Knight spring to mind
Greg
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 19, 2017 21:18:09 GMT
"I like rule discussions but really want to prove it to others not just taking someone's word for it." Oh, I agree. When people bring in evidence that they "have always played it like that" you have a 50% chance that they are wrong, either because the rule no longer exists (there are quite a few Undead rules haunting this game), or because they never existed in the first place. That is why I generally do "a Fidelis" (as someone once called it) and quote all the relevant rules. Could you specify what you think the rules errors were with Random Movers and the Green Knight? Regarding the challenge, if the assassin (or the unit he was in) was in base contact with both the Green Knight and the other unit, the Champion could indeed accept the challenge instead of the Green Knight. - BRB p. 102: If your opponent has issued a challenge, you can now accept it with one of your characters or champions whose unit is in base contact with the unit containing the issuer of the challenge.
However, Bretonnians do not have to accept a challenge (with the exception of the bearer of the Virtue of Confidence) - but if the Bretonnian player does not, any models with the Blessing of the Lady involved in that combat will lose that blessing (Bretonnia AB p.45).
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Aug 20, 2017 6:12:24 GMT
Could you specify what you think the rules errors were with Random Movers and the Green Knight? Oh, that's easy, I made an assumption with the Abomination as I'd forgotten random movers pivot and count as charging. I thought I was out of arc. Regarding the GK, he should have been rolled for a turn earlier - he's not an ambusher or anything but more importantly I forgot about the character movement in combat, namely the assassin. I recall him making way which is wrong, you're right about the blessing but I wasn't going to decline the challenge and I forgot about the Gallant. Rules I don't use much and I forgot, nothing special. Greg |
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Post by frozenfood on Aug 20, 2017 6:59:27 GMT
There are quite a lot of them. Thank the Lady for this forum and people doing a fidelis
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 20, 2017 14:03:22 GMT
Regarding Make Way: unless the assassin had been in CC himself, he could Make Way at the start of the combat to bring himself in btb with the Green Knight. Also, if a hidden assassin is revealed at the start of a Close Combat Phase, he can be put in any position where he can fight.
Note that with the Warlock Augmented weapon, he did not get the benefit of the Poisoned Attacks special rule.
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Post by frozenfood on Aug 21, 2017 4:41:29 GMT
Hmm, sounds like a rpg I played with a mate once. He shoots at the dragon with his multi-barrelled, multi-shot, exploding radioactive ammunition bearing supergun...dragon dies.
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