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Post by livewaaaaagh on Aug 23, 2017 13:00:02 GMT
Hi all,
Yesterday, I had the opportunity to play a game on Universal Battle (!!) with someone who was learning WFB. Of course, I directed him to this forum, but I had a question on a situation that I hadn't seen before:
Ona turn of mine shooting, my Dwarf cannon had complete flank view of a group of 5 Demigryphs. I shot and the cannon ball first bounced before the 1st demi, and then I rolled a 10, so it went through them all. By BRB, a cannon shot to the flank sues files as ranks, so 5 demi grgyphs on a single line, meant 5 ranks. We did the 2+, D6 wounds and I happened to have rolled a 2+ on each one and 4, 5 or 6 wounds each time (meaning each Demigryph died as the cannon went through). Result: All 5 Demis died.
Was that played correctly? And if not, how is it played?
Here's an illustration:
==o x DDDDD --x
Result: Death.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Aug 23, 2017 13:36:53 GMT
Hi all, Yesterday, I had the opportunity to play a game on Universal Battle (!!) with someone who was learning WFB. Of course, I directed him to this forum, but I had a question on a situation that I hadn't seen before: Ona turn of mine shooting, my Dwarf cannon had complete flank view of a group of 5 Demigryphs. I shot and the cannon ball first bounced before the 1st demi, and then I rolled a 10, so it went through them all. By BRB, a cannon shot to the flank sues files as ranks, so 5 demi grgyphs on a single line, meant 5 ranks. We did the 2+, D6 wounds and I happened to have rolled a 2+ on each one and 4, 5 or 6 wounds each time (meaning each Demigryph died as the cannon went through). Result: All 5 Demis died. Was that played correctly? And if not, how is it played? Here's an illustration: ==o x DDDDD --x Result: Death. I believe that is correct. A great example of why Monstrous Cavalry needs to try to avoid giving up a flank shot to cannons. The chances of all the demigryphs dying like that is very low though as it's a 1/3 to fail to kill one with wounds and the cannonball stops. |
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Post by frozenfood on Aug 23, 2017 14:15:03 GMT
Correctly played but hey I have loaded dice too but you don't use them on a newbie!
Unless you're playing Skaven...
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Aug 23, 2017 14:20:36 GMT
I know in older versions if you hit a flank (or even straight on) the path of the cannon ball would alter to get the maximum number of models, in 8th I'm looking at the picture on page 112. the result is the same 3 models but the PATH is straight from the cannon hitting a maximum of one model in each rank. As I say, in previous editions hitting the flank would have resulted in 5 hits.
You played it correctly for wounds etc though, you have to kill and multi wound creature before moving on.
Greg
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 23, 2017 15:06:33 GMT
livewaaaaagh made a flank shot. BRB p. 113: If the cannon is in the target's flank, the target's files count as ranks. Given that the Demis were 5x1, and the cannonball went through all of them, all DGK were hit, which still is only one per rank.
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Post by mottdon on Aug 23, 2017 15:14:50 GMT
You would be correct sir!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 17:14:03 GMT
You played it correctly.
That's one lucky cannon...
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Aug 23, 2017 18:04:29 GMT
What happened in shooting, and in combat I Took out one of his Halberdier units - before that he had Final Trans-ed my Ironbreakers tod eath, so needless to say, quite a swing in battle!
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Post by mottdon on Aug 23, 2017 18:20:04 GMT
You've peaked my interest! I'd love to read a write up of your battle!
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Aug 23, 2017 18:22:01 GMT
No pics though  |
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Post by mottdon on Aug 23, 2017 18:35:26 GMT
Not a problem. I can just use my imagination!
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Post by avatarofbugman on Aug 23, 2017 18:36:59 GMT
You did it correctly.
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Aug 23, 2017 22:14:35 GMT
Do people alter the direction of shot then?
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Aug 23, 2017 22:25:54 GMT
No. As explained above, if the cannon is in the target's flank, the target's files count as ranks. In this case: what is normally a unit of 1 rank and 5 files counts as a unit of 1 file and 5 ranks. As the cannon was more or less perpendicular to the target, the bounce hit all models in that unit of 1 file and 5 ranks, thus hitting one model per rank.
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Post by askaval30 on Aug 24, 2017 13:13:30 GMT
ouch! LiveWaaaagh I left too soon, I missed a fun game... surely taught him an important lesson about avoiding enfilading fire huh?
Any chance you'll be around today for a round on UB?
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