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Post by frozenfood on Sept 9, 2017 6:05:56 GMT
They can snipe, even with the Ruby ring, and give MR to your unit. How do you use them?
I've read about people giving him an arabyan carpet, which is very unfluffy. Would that be a good idea?
They are great against wizards and such. But the wizard needs to be in range. Ogres and beastmen will come to you but most wizards will bunker in a unit of skavenslaves, Phoenix Guard,.. How do you get those?
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Sept 9, 2017 8:11:43 GMT
As spells are not Shooting, bound spell effects/magic missiles do not benefit from the Sniper special rule, only from Killing Blow.
Army Book p. 37: the Witch Hunter may also choose to shoot at the primary quarry as if he had the Sniper special rule.
Empire Official Update Version 1.2, p. 2:
Q: If a Witch Hunter is equipped with a magic item such as the Ring of Volans or the Ruby Ring of Ruin, will any bound spell
effects/magic missiles retain the Killing Blow special rule against the target of the Witch Hunter’s Accusation rule? (p37)
A: Yes.
To add:
- The Carpet is unfluffy, and makes the WH rather vulnerable to flyers, shooting, magic. The biggest backdraw is probably that he cannot take any other magic items.
- I should think the Speculum would be more useful than the Carpet.
- Augment spells like Birona's Timewarp should be effective on the WH.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 10, 2017 11:21:14 GMT
The one thing I could say about the Arabian Carpet is that he would be able to circle and harass the heck out of an enemy general. Especially if they are a low shooting army like Vampire Counts. Bring other guys like Captains on Pegasus's to deal with any flyers.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 10, 2017 11:35:37 GMT
Witch Hunter's are so cheap, you can spam the heck out of them. I watched one game where the Empire player took something like four WHs and simply sent them out on their own, but clustered close together. He kept the behind buildings and in forests for more protection, but had them jump out and shoot at their intended Target when it got close enough. It worked! With all of their combined shooting, they managed to take down their quarry! Of course they had a unit close by that took the charge next turn and then he brought in all four on the sides for flanking attacks. They picked their opponent apart.
Having access to cheap characters is always nice. I've always wished that they had included a mount option for a WH, even one without barding. I'd run him around cowboy style, just like O&G players do with Goblin Bosses on Wolves. Except WH can snipe too..... I also thought a WH on a chariot (like the Black Coach) with flaming brasiers all over it would look so cool and be VERY fluffy! Van Hellsing style! Ah, just a pipe dream I suppose, though in the early days of 9th age, I talked them into giving him a basic mount! 😉
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Post by frozenfood on Sept 11, 2017 6:36:46 GMT
What is the best loadout?
Speculum is fun.
Carpet makes him fast but he's not a combat beast.
Something protective or...?
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Post by mottdon on Sept 11, 2017 20:09:51 GMT
IF you take something on him, I like the Glittering Scales, and the Ruby Ring of Ruin. That'll max out his allowable equipment slots, but still allow him to take his Brace of Pistols as well. I just like the Glittering Scales. I think anything that is making it harder for you to hit me is good. And the Ruby Ring for the Killing Blow that can go with it.
He has the option to take a Great Weapon, but that will give him ASL so unless you're thinking of giving him the Armor of Destiny, I probably wouldn't take that. Plus, he only has 2 attacks with it. In my experience, 2 attacks just simply isn't enough to take out whatever is requiring the use of a GW.
I usually just take them with only a Brace of Pistols though. If I give them anything, I's a cheap little piece of equipment like the Other Trickster's Shard that'll help him be a little extra killy.
The Speculum is usually best given to a Wizard because their stats are the worst. Combined with a Talisman of Preservation, that can be a nasty surprise for someone expecting to get an easy kill on him. The WHs stats are still pretty solid, so I'd not want to give them to someone else who might have good equipment. Remember, the Speculum doesn't transfer the bonuses that character's equipment is giving him.
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