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Post by Horace on Oct 16, 2017 8:58:50 GMT
Better? I will upload final versions at some point
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Post by grandmasterwang on Oct 17, 2017 14:45:42 GMT
Better? I will upload final versions at some point Looks awesome, I like Boris' rules.
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Post by mottdon on Oct 19, 2017 19:40:45 GMT
Looks good! I'm working on painting my Boris up and plan on putting him to the test!
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Post by Naitsabes on Oct 19, 2017 21:20:09 GMT
Looks really professional!
I am a little wary of the Boris' enormous buff when Kazrak is present. I am not familiar with Kazrak's special rules but how about giving him a buff then as well? Maybe if both Boris and Kazrak are present than both armies gain hatred? Wouldn't help beastmen much, most of the time they get their quasi-hatred anyway (can't remember what the rule is called). Still, it really is mostly a cute rule, don't see it come into play all that often.
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Post by knoffles on Oct 20, 2017 7:50:54 GMT
Khazaks has a special rule around rerolling or adding +1 to the ambush table result (I forget exactly). I can't remember him having any particular rule relating to Boris (although I rarely use special characters and nowhere near my book (so I'm probably making this up as I go along). Naitsabes not sure if the cute rule you refer to is the Beastmen hatred rule but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree if it is. It is one of the best things they have to offer as an army. I've recently been taking a Beastlord with standard of discipline just to ensure LD 10 to get hatred every round of combat (there is still the issue of actually making it into combat but that is a different issue altogether). Still having guaranteed rerolls in the first round of combat as a special rule when facing Boris, is nothing to be sniffed at either.
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Post by mottdon on Oct 20, 2017 13:44:45 GMT
Horace, I was hoping that you could do this for a unit of Teutogen Guard? I'll PM you a copy of their 6th edition rules.
They carry a 12 point price tag with the same stat line as a Greatsword unit, but they carry a White Wolf Hammer - which doesn't have a special rule written with it. I think it should. It should confer a +1S to the bearer. Basically act as a Halberd. That way, while you are paying more for a Teutogen Guard at S4 compared to a Greatsword at S5, they wouldn't have the ASL special rule. If you want S5, then you have the option to upgrade them to Inner Circle Knights for +2 points per model.
Also, they have Full Plate Armor, but I think that their White Wolf Cloaks should confer +1 armor vs non-magical shooting (similar to what the White Lion cloaks do, but not quite as good).
Do you think you could write up this in the same format? I'd REALLY appreciate it!
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Post by Horace on Oct 20, 2017 14:16:32 GMT
Horace, I was hoping that you could do this for a unit of Teutogen Guard? I'll PM you a copy of their 6th edition rules. They carry a 12 point price tag with the same stat line as a Greatsword unit, but they carry a White Wolf Hammer - which doesn't have a special rule written with it. I think it should. It should confer a +1S to the bearer. Basically act as a Halberd. That way, while you are paying more for a Teutogen Guard at S4 compared to a Greatsword at S5, they wouldn't have the ASL special rule. If you want S5, then you have the option to upgrade them to Inner Circle Knights for +2 points per model. Also, they have Full Plate Armor, but I think that their White Wolf Cloaks should confer +1 armor vs non-magical shooting (similar to what the White Lion cloaks do, but not quite as good). Do you think you could write up this in the same format? I'd REALLY appreciate it! Np I'll get it done some time soonish
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Post by Naitsabes on Oct 20, 2017 16:53:09 GMT
Naitsabes not sure if the cute rule you refer to is the Beastmen hatred rule but I'm going to have to respectfully disagree if it is. It is one of the best things they have to offer as an army. I've recently been taking a Beastlord with standard of discipline just to ensure LD 10 to get hatred every round of combat (there is still the issue of actually making it into combat but that is a different issue altogether). Still having guaranteed rerolls in the first round of combat as a special rule when facing Boris, is nothing to be sniffed at either. the 'cute' rule I referred to was Boris (and per my suggestion Kazrak) having special abilities when they face each other. Beastmen and their hatred is anything but cute. It's horrifying 'hide your women, children and alcohol' kind of stuff. mottdon, the white wolf hammer did have a special rule back in the days. On foot it acted just as you describe. Those GW rule writers got nothing on you!
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Post by mottdon on Oct 20, 2017 18:46:15 GMT
HA! Well, there you go! That works then!
I still like the idea about the Wolf Cloaks giving -1 To Hit vs Non-magical Shooting. What do you guys think? Elves get White Lion Cloaks, Sea Dragon Cloaks, and Dragon Armor, for about the same cost. Lizardmen get Scaly Skin beneath their armor. Empire elite troops should get a little something too.
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Post by Horace on Nov 8, 2017 14:04:02 GMT
mottdon There is limited artwork for Middenheim (except Kot White Wolf) so I guess the options for Teutogen Guard art is as follows: Or no picture and a Middenheim icon or story scroll (kind of like Aldebrand) Technically one of them is Valten I think, but it fits quite well. I would probably crop out everything to just keep the top right guy in the middle image. I would recolour them all anyways to fit in the book better. Any preferences?
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Post by mottdon on Nov 8, 2017 14:31:22 GMT
I definitely like the "Valten" picture best. It fits the theme quite well. It has just enough of that "blurry" look so that it can be considered in a variety of ways.
The second picture is from the "Uniforms and Heraldry of the Empire" book. That was a unit called the "Swords of Ulric" - a Swordsmen unit. I know that it has a dude (Champion I assume) wielding a warhammer, but apart from the rest having sword & board, their armor is way off too.
The third is much closer to what they'd look like - except for the bear pelts. That kinda bugs me because the White Wolf is a huge part of who they are.
I'll look and see if I can dig up any images, but as of right now, the first pic gets my vote and is a good one. Thanks for doing this!
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Post by mottdon on Nov 8, 2017 14:45:05 GMT
Okay, here's another one. I'm not quite sure I actually like this one better than the "Valten" pic though. It'll give you another option though.
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Nov 10, 2017 3:52:44 GMT
Will the war wagon entry have the rules for the experimental weapons? Looks good so far.
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Post by Horace on Nov 10, 2017 10:22:17 GMT
Will the war wagon entry have the rules for the experimental weapons? Looks good so far. They are wriiten up on page 2 of this thread. They are KevinC 's rules from his Dark Tidings campaign and are fairly similar to the 5th edition rules. The experimental weapons are the Long Rifle, Blunderbuss, Repeater Hand Gun, Ball & Chain, Hook Halberd & Mancatcher.
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Post by Horace on Nov 10, 2017 10:36:03 GMT
Also found this image in Thanquol under the fall of Middenheim. Better? Worse?
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