Common goblins vs night goblins

I do as well for the same reason BUT we have the Goblin King himself Kevin Coleman on this forum and he prefers common Goblins. He will give you his reasons eventually (IIRC higher leadership)

In game terms, Night Goblins have always (arguably) had the edge over common Goblins, but in 8th edition I believe common Goblins are the better choice overall, though each type of Goblin has its own advantages.

Common Goblin Pros

• Leadership 6 (this is a big deal, especially for an army made of entirely Goblins with no Orcs).
• Better Equipment Options. Light armour & shield makes a difference with a 5+ armour and a 6+ ward for 3.5 pts per Goblin. Further you can add short bows on top of this, for a combined light armour, shields and short bows (4 points a Gobbo!). This makes a huge mob of Gobbos both 'shooty & fighty.' Indeed, this is my favorite way to arm Goblins - they are like the Goblin 'Seaguard.'
• Nasty Skulkers. Most people underestimate these guys and they don't receive enough credit. For a total of 30 points, you get three of them (10 pts each). That's 9 ASF, Armour Piercing attacks (with Killing Blow on the first turn). They can cause series damage (for Goblin anyway!) and can make even Chaos Lords on foot or cav cower - you just need that one lucky 6! Whats more is that Nasty Skulkers are cheaper than a big boss (a Goblin Big Boss is 35 points base or 30 for a Night Goblin), can do more damage, and don't give away victory points when they die (you have to destroy the entire unit). This makes them better than Goblin heroes!

Night Goblin Pros

• Initiative 3, is one point higher than common Goblins. Makes a big difference against other low initiative troops - Dwarfs, Ogres, Orcs, etc.
• Hatred (Dwarfs). Dwarfs have always been a traditional tough army to fight against for Goblin armies. The Hatred helps a lot (especially with Squig Herds).
• Cheapest base-troop Goblin. For 3 points you get either a Night Goblin with shield or with short bow. As opposed to common Goblins who only come with light armour at 3 points. To get the most out of the common Goblins you need to give them at least one more piece of equipment (say shields for .5 points). But Night Goblins are fine as is for just 3 points.
• Fanatics. Fanatics are nice, of course, and they can cause decent damage and make your opponent second guess himself. However, they are overrated by most players. 25 points is a lot for them. In my typical 2,500-point army or less, I rarely field more than two. Once you start spending 75 points or more on fanatics it becomes a massive investment. For example, you can get a Mangler Squig for 65 points - 10 points cheaper than 3 fanatics!
• Netters. Nets are a good option. But again 45 points for the whole unit is a lot, for 5 more points you could have another Goblin Chariot. Still, Night Goblin Mobs with shields and nets can be very dangerous. If you buy nets, the unit should be no less than 50 models. That way nets work out to be less than 1 point per model. The larger the unit the more cost efficient.

In game terms, these are the differences of the two Goblin infantry types from the O&G book. But you might want to try out Dust Goblins, Hill Goblins, Fire Kobolds, Forest Goblins, Chaos Goblins, Skargobbos, or even Hobgoblins...

We had a similar discussion here: Goblins v. Night Goblins

Nasty skulkers have killing blow but he still gets his armour save. Wouldn't a great weapon have more impact then?

WHAT??
Why has no one told me this before?
Why can't I remember all the rules?
Why is this game so complicated?
Am I masochistic because I like it?
SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!

(goes to sob in a corner)

---Yes, they count as characters.

It’s in Kevin’s Grom army list: eefl.freeforums.net/thread/2/warhammer-grom

I've not seen the nasty skulkers - probably because I've sold my O&G many years ago and no body I know takes common goblins. So if Nasty skuljers count as characters can they leave a unit? I remember using hereos to divert enemy units, this makes using them cheaper still without the disadvantage of losing points straight away - as said above you've gotta kill the unit.

Greg