barl
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Post by barl on Jul 24, 2019 23:57:57 GMT
cheers, guys! barl, yes, I used the greenstuffworld rolling pins. The cobblestone are made in original sculpey. I've also used sculpey III (for example on the Tawdry Tap's stone wall). Sculpey III is quite a bit more expensive. There isn't much of a difference in how the details come out but, it seems to me original sculpey shrinks a bit more while drying/baking. Not a huge problem for the cobblestone as you can always fill in seams with some green stuff or even just cover up with static grass at the very end. So I'd say for the money original sculpey is the way to go. Ok, looking at mine i see i also got the original but beige, not sure if it is any different. Had some trouble with getting the details to show up with the egyptian pin, the pattern is alot smaller so i may have to take a look at the expensive version.
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Post by Naitsabes on Aug 5, 2019 6:00:47 GMT
Alright! I have finished the partly ruined tower. It's the homestretch for the whole piece. The last major stumbling block is the cobblestone base. A smarter man than me would have done that way earlier because putting the whole thing into the oven now to bake the sculpey cobblestone sounds a bit crazy. Will need to contemplate my next move carefully.
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Post by mottdon on Aug 5, 2019 12:12:08 GMT
Lookin'good! Skulpy isn't lightweight. I bet that's pretty heavy by now. You must own stock in Skulpy too! Those little blocks only stretch so far! Lol!
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Post by Naitsabes on Aug 5, 2019 16:04:36 GMT
well the buildings so far are made from dental plaster. but, heavy too. I should weigh out the piece when it's done, it is quite hefty as is.
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Post by kaltheras on Aug 7, 2019 22:37:09 GMT
Can't wait to see this in person, and then battle over it!
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Tubis
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Post by Tubis on Aug 15, 2019 20:45:06 GMT
Hot damn, that is an awesome tower. I admire your patience with the hirst art blocks, I gave up on them pretty quickly (but as you know I tend to spend my evenings chiselling in PVC, not sure what's worse)!
Are you intending on baking the entire base with the tower sitting on it? Or is it still detachable? Perhaps an air drying clay could do the trick, something like DAS or FIMO (not sure these brands are available in the US).
Anyways great work, I'm itching to work on my own terrain again!
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Post by Naitsabes on Aug 16, 2019 1:02:00 GMT
Hot damn, that is an awesome tower. I admire your patience with the hirst art blocks, I gave up on them pretty quickly (but as you know I tend to spend my evenings chiselling in PVC, not sure what's worse)! Are you intending on baking the entire base with the tower sitting on it? Or is it still detachable? Perhaps an air drying clay could do the trick, something like DAS or FIMO (not sure these brands are available in the US). Anyways great work, I'm itching to work on my own terrain again! well, to each their own tedious little time waster!
most of the cardboard/balsa parts are removable but, the hirst blocks are not. so yes, the current plan is to shove the whole thing in the oven. sculpey only needs 130C so I kind of think the plaster can stand that. One way to find out... The alternative would be to make all the cobblestone around the wall, then ever so gently take them off the base in pieces and bake. But, that means plenty opportunity for the sculpey pieces to lose shape or even rip and tear.
FIMO also needs to be baked, I think that is pretty much the same as sculpey. DAS might be an option but I remember it being rather sticky so not sure it will work with the rollers. And I have made some sculpey cobblestone bases already and worry that changing material would make it look differently (e.g. DAS shrinks and cracks, I hear).
Anyway. The oven is looming for this piece but I haven't quite committed. Procrastination, the noblest form of cowardice.
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Post by Naitsabes on Aug 16, 2019 7:10:13 GMT
Alright! I've finished painting on the Tawdry Tap. Quite happy with it, except for the sign. I tried to put a tap on there and it looked like some dude's private parts (who should probably see a doctor). Anyway, I chickened out and just put the name. Still need to do the cobblestones but want to wait until the other piece is built so I can do all cobbles in one go. Will take more pics at that point. Can't avoid that oven-related moment of truth much longer.
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Tubis
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Post by Tubis on Aug 16, 2019 7:46:20 GMT
NaitsabesPerhaps try and put a couple od single hirst blocks into the oven first, before you commit the entire tower to the possible heat-induced doom ? Googling the melting point of dental plaster is giving me pretty mixed results. There is also the question of glue, no idea how will it act in high temperatures. Fingers crossed anyhow! The Tawdry Tap looks very cool.The stippling on the walls turned out very convincing.
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Post by Horace on Aug 16, 2019 9:32:52 GMT
Wow this all looks fantastic! I don't think I'd have the balls to put that whole glorious tower into an oven
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Post by strutsagget on Aug 17, 2019 16:29:08 GMT
That looks awesome! Great job!
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Post by Naitsabes on Aug 20, 2019 4:31:48 GMT
This is turning into a blow by blow story. But, maybe somebody out there will find it useful and avoid the silly hoops I go through. So, as you may remember, my plan was for the whole piece to go into the oven to bake the sculpey. And so it did. I did a few test blocks first. Not going to lie, I was still nervous. To keep a short story short, the tower did not melt or go up in flames. So far so good. BUT, the baseboard warped quite horribly. I think that may be because the sculpey shrank a bit? After a shot of whisky, I proceeded to paint the rim of the base (because a bit of water-based paint won't hurt now). Then I piled a bunch of books on the corners and now I will leave it for a few days and hope for a miracle. If there is no divine intervention, I suppose I will find out what happens to the tower if I take a hack saw to the baseboard. Then I will mount it on plastic (sorry, polar bears). The saga co tinues, stay tuned.
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Post by Horace on Aug 20, 2019 8:50:06 GMT
I try and avoid basing anything on wood these days. It always warps at some point. Instead I just use a variety of different thicknesses of plastic-card
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Post by Naitsabes on Aug 25, 2019 6:30:24 GMT
I try and avoid basing anything on wood these days. It always warps at some point. Instead I just use a variety of different thicknesses of plastic-card Well now you are telling me!
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Post by Naitsabes on Aug 25, 2019 6:49:45 GMT
Okay. It took a while but the warp is gone. I did wet the underside a bit and then left it alone for a few days. Eventually the Harry Potter series (in hardback!) pushed the corners down. I am quite relieved. I've finished off the crumbling walls with a mix of sand, little stones and white glue over some aluminum foil for structure (kaltheras put me on to this. There is no school like old school). So, now all that's left to do is paint this bad boy up. Piece of cake.
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