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Post by redknight on May 30, 2018 7:41:10 GMT
Does it includes magic attacks ?
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Post by mottdon on May 30, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
I'd say yes, since it doesn't specify any difference between standard or magical. The only exception would be that it only works against ranged attacks. You thinking of giving it to a block of Hex Wraiths? (I don't know if there is a way to do that.) What edition is that from? I don't recall seeing it.
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Post by sedge on May 30, 2018 18:46:21 GMT
It's an 8th ed. Blood Knight only banner - you can't take it on Hexwraiths. The Vampire Counts FAQs doesn't have any clarification on this, but I think you can treat "ranged attacks" literally - i.e. anything with a range - so that would include magic missiles and direct damage spells. It wouldn't include vortexes, I think, as those don't have a range to them (and the damage is coming from the centre of the vortex not from the caster).
I tend to take it all the time on by Blood Knights, as I've already spent so damned much on them (points and £££s) that I want to keep them alive(ish) for as long as possible - and a 2+ armour save just doesn't stand up to much in the way of ranged attacks.
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Post by mottdon on May 30, 2018 19:22:05 GMT
a 2+ armour save just doesn't stand up to much in the way of ranged attacks. I assume you're talking about war machines and the like, because I know my meager Empire Archers, Handgunners, and Crossbowmen have some serious trouble punching through armor like that! Now Bolt Throwers on the other hand...
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Post by sedge on May 30, 2018 19:44:33 GMT
Anything with Strength 4 or armour piercing is a concern to them - but even a unit of say 30 High Elf archers will probably take one out in a volley. When your cavalry cost 50 points a model (so you're rarely fielding more than 5), you just can't afford to be losing any before you get to combat.
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Post by mottdon on May 30, 2018 20:49:58 GMT
Yeah, I hear ya'! Cavalry is kinda hard to take in 8th, no matter how much you like them.
I played a game not too long ago that saw 20 HE archers and 2 Bolt Throwers facing off against the new Orc Gore Gruntaz monstrous cav. unit. Those poor, poor Orcs never had a chance...
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Post by redknight on May 31, 2018 2:06:12 GMT
I like where this is going.
Thank you for the valuable input guys.
I am opening another thread to discuss blood knights more specifically.
I really like them and I want to make them work, but I need advice !!!
Seeya there.
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