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Post by knoffles on Jun 28, 2018 15:46:38 GMT
I actually like the GW model. You can tell it’s years old and it could have done with an update but it has a classic feel to it in the same way as the stone trolls
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Post by kroak on Jun 28, 2018 17:11:28 GMT
The most recent Kroxigor model isnt that old. It is from 7th edition, so maybe 2009? I have some 5th and 6th edition Kroxigors in my army. The 5th edition Kroxigors look ok but the 6th ed. ones look really bad. The recent are also ok, I guess.
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Post by mottdon on Jun 28, 2018 18:01:17 GMT
Well, since wootigy came out with his version of Kroxigor, they have made me realize just how much potential that unit really has (sculpt wise). Something like a Kroxigor really came look amazing if you put the right spin on it. That unit should never just be "okay" looking. They are kind of a centerpiece models since one of the ways they can be taken is in a Skink Cohort (which I love to use, optimal or not). They are literally heads and shoulders above the rest of that unit. They should scream "menacing" or make your opponent think, "Crap! That's gonna be hard to deal with!" The GW ones just don't do any of that for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 18:10:11 GMT
The GW ones? I really can't stand them. I only have 3 Kroxigor (woogity's) and that's a huge travesty for me since I have such large armies. That's how much I despise the GW ones. I've been waiting for new ones to come out for a long time, but they won't update those models for whatever reason. I wish I had ordered more of woogity's when he was making them, but too late I suppose. There is so much potential with that creature, but I feel as though they got a quick model out to fill the spot and then left it. It is badly in need of an update. And the perfect example of people wanting updated models is woogity's Kroxigor. Those sold like hotcakes, and he couldn't keep up. Sucks that his job made him stop. (For those of you who don't know, he works for Total War 2 and has designed a bunch of the characters in it, including the Kroxigor.) Agree 100%. I can't stand the current Kroxigor sculpt. My only problem is I didn't get any of the Woogity ones when he was making them, I found out too late about it to get in on the action  I bought a single Kroxigor off of ebay to use with my Lizardmen in Mordheim and the model is just...meh. It was the cheapest option I could find and it will fit the bill in a pinch. For a nice alternative I really do like the Mierce Krokodar unit - they're basically just giant bipedal crocodiles. I'm also planning to back this upcoming lost kingdoms on kickstarter so I can get the "turtlegors" that are included as I actually like those quite a bit (I don't care for the Stegedon leg toting one though - hopefully that's optional). With regards to the AoW stuff.. I'm actually done with their products I think. I'm not a fan of their material, the pieces of the models don't fit together well and require a lot of filing/cutting/gap filling. That last slayer model I put together from them I couldn't even get the hairpieces that came with it to line up remotely in a manner that I could fix it to work so I just abandoned hair on the slayer altogether. And the noble required a lot of patience and greenstuff in order to make fit properly. That's on top of all the pinning and the multiple coats of varnish to get the model to a playable standard. These models don't look that great to me. Mottdon is correct they should be looking to fill in gaps in model ranges that are outdated/under represented instead of giving us models where there's already better ones out there. |
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Post by roughtimes on Jun 29, 2018 13:16:26 GMT
AoW's problem is that they've got no business sense. They have a great sculptor, but the company seems to be run awfully. Their delivery times are atrocious, they seem useless at getting their products into independent stores, and their marketing is virtually non-existent these days. They used to make an effort - back when their slayers were released, they sent sample sets to various bloggers to get them reviewed, and that kit has clearly been a success for them. I know the market for ranked fantasy wargaming isn't what it used to be since AoS, but if they put some work in, they could be the leading replacement (in terms of models at least) as GW slowly phases out old kits. The ongoing saga of their Dwarf Bronzeshields/Ironshields (warriors and longbeards) plus Crossbow/Handgun units in proper plastic (multipart hard-plastic sprues, like the slayers) epitomises this - they should have got them out years ago, and the longer they delay it, the more of a struggle it could be to sell them. They won't even do them in the old "restic" material that, while annoying to work with, is better than nothing. Why make such great models if you're not going to sell them? It's a pity, as I'd be picking up several boxes from them if they could just get those models released. Instead, it's just a handful of characters from them on my wish-list. I'm surprised to hear they are still so poorly run. I wanted to order a bunch of their stuff years ago but was way too worried after reading about all the issues. I figured they would have gone under or sorted everything out by now. |
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Post by mottdon on Jun 29, 2018 15:08:27 GMT
I bet that their main business focus it to get their models in LGS. Selling to individual customers through their webstore, is probably much further down the list for them.
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Post by sedge on Jun 29, 2018 16:15:55 GMT
Selling direct will get them a much better margin though. And from what others have said, stores haven't experienced a good service from them. My local one, Dark Sphere gave up on stocking their range a couple of years ago.
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Post by roughtimes on Jun 29, 2018 18:16:09 GMT
It's a real shame bc their chaos stuff is pretty nice.
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Post by sedge on Aug 6, 2018 18:11:22 GMT
They've got a 40% sale on for Wednesday this week. You have to email them first to get a discount code, which is only then valid for that one day. It's actually a damn good deal, and if I were in a position to buy stuff, I'd be taking the offer up for a load of dwarf characters. No releases from them in July, which is a pity. |
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Post by mottdon on Aug 6, 2018 19:07:50 GMT
Damn it. I don't need to spend more money right now. Oh well, I'll dig myself outta this hole eventually....
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Post by sedge on Sept 10, 2018 10:51:16 GMT
New releases! 360° views on their website. Dwarf Thane with Great Shield Wretched Beast of Pestilence Edit - also: "Remember that for the whole AOW NEW RELEASES WEEK (from today until Monday 17), we offer 15% off on all miniatures from armies that get reinforcements with these new releases (Dwarfs and Warriors of the Dark Gods this time)!" |
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Post by sedge on Sept 10, 2018 10:58:00 GMT
That Dwarf Thane is really good. Not sure on the shield, but I'd assume that's a separate component and thus replaceable. I'm considering him as my Lord on Shieldbearers.
The Fiend of Slaanesh is pretty decent too. Are they usually fielded solo, or in units of multiples?
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Sept 10, 2018 12:11:51 GMT
Dwarf thane looks good!
Has anyone bought frmo them? I was looking at their Slayers and Hammerers as possible buys.
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 10, 2018 12:34:55 GMT
In my group the dwarfs players like their models and from what I can tell of the paint jobs they look fantastic  |
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Post by sedge on Sept 10, 2018 12:38:13 GMT
Dwarf thane looks good!
Has anyone bought frmo them? I was looking at their Slayers and Hammerers as possible buys.
Yep - got their Slayers and Rangers in this thread, and by the end of the month their Thunderers too: eefl.freeforums.net/thread/1050/sedges-dwarvesMottdon has also bought/painted lots of their stuff, and I know others have too. The Slayers are great, the PVC regiments aren't great quality but if you've got the patience to clean them up are okay. The metal characters are good, but again can require some clean up (especially on fragile bits). |
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