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Post by tileag on Jul 18, 2020 15:57:17 GMT
Really random titbit. Like many I’m on various old world FB groups. Most of the posts are just repeats of the same thing with suppositions of what format it would take but on one we were talking about how we’d be happy with new novels being released and a chap called Clint Werner starts saying about how he would love to write more stories about Brunner the Bounty Hunter. Only turned out to be C L Werner of black library fame. I loved the Brunner series! Thats cool that he wants to keep making those stories
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Post by strutsagget on Jul 21, 2020 14:57:08 GMT
I wish they reintroduced Dogs of War. Seems like a perfect way to release new models/units and force people to buy them
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Post by sedge on Dec 28, 2020 13:23:12 GMT
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Dec 28, 2020 13:34:15 GMT
Soooo interesting!! So much good and then still more questions.
The fact that Bretonnia, Orcs (not Or r u k s), High Elves and Wood Elves are back is great! What I'm seeing a bit is that the map hasn't changed much. Meaning Norsca, down to the Empire, Bretonnia, Tilea, just pass Black Fire Pass roughly into the northern Badlands.
The questions that arise after a 2nd time of seeing a similar map: What will happen to those races far from this part of the map? Lizardmen? Tomb Kings? Dark Elves? Ogres? I get people probably laughed at "Tomb Kings", but Lizardmen, Ogres and Dark Elves are important races to Warhammer. They are in Age of Sigmar, Blood Bowl, etc.
Next question for me is: will we soon(ish) see an update on Dwarfs, Vampires, Skaven and Chaos? We have a confirmed timeline, so we should be able to see who was leading those factions at the time as well. (I need to go back to read a bit for refreshers).
Of course, this doesn't talk at all about rules, but that'll come.
What else do people say/think?
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Post by Naitsabes on Dec 28, 2020 16:18:35 GMT
well, it does say a 'new game in the old world', not a new version or edition of the old game we love. there might still be cool models.
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Post by Horace on Dec 28, 2020 17:09:12 GMT
well, it does say a 'new game in the old world', not a new version or edition of the old game we love. there might still be cool models. Yeah I do feel bittersweet about it. Glad we will get new models and stuff but I very much doubt the game will resemble 8th. Maybe it will be good regardless
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Post by knoffles on Dec 28, 2020 18:02:29 GMT
It was a great bit of news. Definitely raised the hopes a bit. I still think it will be a simplified ruleset if only because that is the way almost all their games are going (Horus heresy -30k- being the exception).
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Post by KevinC on Dec 28, 2020 20:43:24 GMT
----------That's during the Age of the Three Emperors!
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Post by strutsagget on Dec 29, 2020 6:23:54 GMT
So I would think it would be silly celebrate warhammer fantasy 40 years without the new game being warhammer fantasy. But yes the ruleset will probably be very updated.
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Post by mottdon on Dec 29, 2020 12:51:57 GMT
I'm excited to see that they're planning on bringing back Brets, Orcs, HE and WE. Still way too much left with question marks for me to get excited just yet.
There's a lot of people saying that it'll be a 15mm game. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS FOR A MINUTE! That's just people wishlisting.
Personally, I can't see GW bringing back a well established timeline/game and making a bold, baseless gamble on such a huge undertaking like that. No, they'll go with the "sure thing" and provide what the majority wants. Of course there will be changes to the game, there is in every new edition, but I'm sure it'll be a game we (for the most part) recognize.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make it 32mm though. AoS was largely successful, though, not nearly as much as it could have been though and I think GW realized this after seeing the successes of the Total War games. That was their wake-up call and this is their attempt to regain much of what they lost, but they aren't simply going to abandon AoS. If at all possible, they'll make models that can be used in both settings. They'll probably also include square AND round bases in boxes.
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Post by Horace on Dec 29, 2020 13:39:11 GMT
It is really hard to guess where they will place this game. I am surprised that they are going with square bases (unless they backtrack on this) because these smaller scale, simpler games are what I expect. I think the movement and general rules will be very much streamlined and simplified. I don't even really mind if we get something quite small scale to start with, then hopefully they could release a bigger (perhaps more "advanced" version). I don't think they need to abandon AoS at all, fantasy and AoS can live quite happily alongside each other. This was the mistake they made in the first place
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Post by KevinC on Dec 29, 2020 16:01:31 GMT
I'm excited to see that they're planning on bringing back Brets, Orcs, HE and WE. Still way too much left with question marks for me to get excited just yet. There's a lot of people saying that it'll be a 15mm game. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS FOR A MINUTE! That's just people wishlisting. Personally, I can't see GW bringing back a well established timeline/game and making a bold, baseless gamble on such a huge undertaking like that. No, they'll go with the "sure thing" and provide what the majority wants. Of course there will be changes to the game, there is in every new edition, but I'm sure it'll be a game we (for the most part) recognize. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make it 32mm though. AoS was largely successful, though, not nearly as much as it could have been though and I think GW realized this after seeing the successes of the Total War games. That was their wake-up call and this is their attempt to regain much of what they lost, but they aren't simply going to abandon AoS. If at all possible, they'll make models that can be used in both settings. They'll probably also include square AND round bases in boxes. -----------GW needs to learn from Disney....don't give us Episodes 7, 8 & 9, give us the Mandalorian!
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Post by sedge on Dec 29, 2020 18:02:06 GMT
Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but I wouldn't be surprised if it returned in similar form to the WFB we know and love, albeit in a different timeline.
It's being run by the Specialist Games team who brought back Necromunda, Blood Bowl etc. - and those all initially came back pretty much identical to what they were before. They're trying to appeal to the people who played WFB before as a starting point - and that's still a massive audience - so the "first version" of this may well be similar to 8th's rules, though I'm sure they'll take the opportunity to streamline some of the stuff that was perhaps needlessly complex.
As for races, they're just going over the map and giving us teasers at the moment. I fully expect every WFB race to return - they're even bringing in "new" (ish) ones like Kislev who didn't have rules/models for years. The idea that they'd drop Dark Elves (massively popular, still have a current model range) just because they're across the ocean doesn't stack up - plus pretty much everyone fights in the Old World at times. Same applies to Ogres (still have a near-full model range), Vampire Counts (large model range - even have new AoS model that could work in WFB, very popular army) and others.
Aside from timeline, the area I think might be markedly different is how releases work. This game just isn't likely to be one of GW's flagship games any more (unless it surprises them with rivalling AoS for popularity) - so we will probably get smaller scale releases focused around a specific narrative / campaign. A lot of older, still servicable models will likely make a comeback - anything that got released in 8th (e.g. High Elf Phoenixes) is almost a no-brainer to return. New stuff is likely to be a mix of some "core" plastic kits plus FW resin.
It looks like we still may have a couple of years to go, but Warhammer:TOW remains great news for us. It keeps people interested in Warhammer Fantasy, and there's the promise of new models to come.
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Post by mottdon on Dec 29, 2020 18:23:45 GMT
I could be wrong, but I don't think that they'll go small scale with this. (Size-wize or game scope!) 3-4 years is a long time to spend developing a simple game. They also know their audience. If they just wanted new players, they didn't have to place the game during the time of three emperor's. It could have EASILY been an advancement of the AOS storyline.
I am, however, a bit perturbed with the amount of information they're releasing and the rate. Two information releases isn't much, especially considering the miniscule amount of content. Brets, Orcs, HE and WE. Great! What else??? This has been in development for over a year! Can't they give us more info a little less...generic?
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Post by lordofskullpass on Dec 30, 2020 11:05:36 GMT
I'm excited to see that they're planning on bringing back Brets, Orcs, HE and WE. Still way too much left with question marks for me to get excited just yet. There's a lot of people saying that it'll be a 15mm game. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS FOR A MINUTE! That's just people wishlisting. Personally, I can't see GW bringing back a well established timeline/game and making a bold, baseless gamble on such a huge undertaking like that. No, they'll go with the "sure thing" and provide what the majority wants. Of course there will be changes to the game, there is in every new edition, but I'm sure it'll be a game we (for the most part) recognize. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make it 32mm though. AoS was largely successful, though, not nearly as much as it could have been though and I think GW realized this after seeing the successes of the Total War games. That was their wake-up call and this is their attempt to regain much of what they lost, but they aren't simply going to abandon AoS. If at all possible, they'll make models that can be used in both settings. They'll probably also include square AND round bases in boxes. -----------GW needs to learn from Disney....don't give us Episodes 7, 8 & 9, give us the Mandalorian! Nah, give us Rogue One and Andor!
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