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Post by thegoat on Dec 6, 2021 20:33:58 GMT
I seriously doubt it'll be good  . Sadly, GW is only interested in one thing - "buy our brilliant miniatures!". They now look toward "the big dudes" - look at their releases since 2014 - one fraction of super-uber-heroes (Space Marines - ahem - StormcastEternals) and further only monsters (and scenery/terrain/spell models) for all. Rest of new fractions (AoS) have very bad (poor) model range. Damn, all rostets now are something about a)3-4 big dudes (Great daemons/dragons/stonehorns/giants, underline whatever applicable) and some squishy weaklings (core. Say, 3 units of 5-10) or b)simply "ctrl+C" - a lot of lot of identical dudes. Pfff About starters...I think they'll just repack most of old boxes. Likely they are just replace oval bases with square ones. Tomb kings, Bretonnia...they were discontinued at all. No, GW just put aside it. For Old world. New boxes are likely to be released just as with current Combat patrols/Start collectings. With subsequent "Big-and-scary [overpowered] guy". It'll be slap-dash, at best P.S. Excuse my maybe excessive pessimism and anger, mates  . And any linguistic mistakes, of course. I have much of the same worries as you. I hate the "enormous centerpiece models" train that GW has been riding for the past decade. It is not as simple as just putting square bases in the boxes. I'm afraid even common AoS troopers are way too big to rank up on 20mm or 25mm bases. So is a 32mm square base going to be the standard for human/goblin/elf sized troops? Yuck. That said, I hope I am proven wrong. |
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Post by KevinC on Dec 7, 2021 14:47:14 GMT
I seriously doubt it'll be good . Sadly, GW is only interested in one thing - "buy our brilliant miniatures!". They now look toward "the big dudes" - look at their releases since 2014 - one fraction of super-uber-heroes (Space Marines - ahem - StormcastEternals) and further only monsters (and scenery/terrain/spell models) for all. Rest of new fractions (AoS) have very bad (poor) model range. Damn, all rostets now are something about a)3-4 big dudes (Great daemons/dragons/stonehorns/giants, underline whatever applicable) and some squishy weaklings (core. Say, 3 units of 5-10) or b)simply "ctrl+C" - a lot of lot of identical dudes. Pfff About starters...I think they'll just repack most of old boxes. Likely they are just replace oval bases with square ones. Tomb kings, Bretonnia...they were discontinued at all. No, GW just put aside it. For Old world. New boxes are likely to be released just as with current Combat patrols/Start collectings. With subsequent "Big-and-scary [overpowered] guy". It'll be slap-dash, at best P.S. Excuse my maybe excessive pessimism and anger, mates . And any linguistic mistakes, of course. -------------Remember though, they still do LOTR and WH30K miniatures that have not increased in scale (to my knowledge). This could hold true for the Old World. |
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Post by thegoat on Dec 7, 2021 15:16:13 GMT
-------------Remember though, they still do LOTR and WH30K miniatures that have not increased in scale (to my knowledge). This could hold true for the Old World. Do you think The Old World will have a completely separate model range? I've been assuming GW will market it as compatible with AoS models. |
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Post by Lizards_of_Renown on Dec 7, 2021 23:44:37 GMT
-------------Remember though, they still do LOTR and WH30K miniatures that have not increased in scale (to my knowledge). This could hold true for the Old World. Do you think The Old World will have a completely separate model range? I've been assuming GW will market it as compatible with AoS models. They have said that it will allow us Old-hammer user (read Proper-Hammer or Pro-Hammer) to use our existing armies. So unless they go back on their word then they shouldn't be increasing the size. |
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Post by thegoat on Dec 8, 2021 0:31:14 GMT
Do you think The Old World will have a completely separate model range? I've been assuming GW will market it as compatible with AoS models. They have said that it will allow us Old-hammer user (read Proper-Hammer or Pro-Hammer) to use our existing armies. So unless they go back on their word then they shouldn't be increasing the size. I don't think anything they have leaked about The Old World would prevent them from up scaling model and base size while still allowing old models on smaller bases to be used. The official GW base size rule has pretty much always been "use the base the model came with". I think they will just say old guard players, like you and I, can legally use smaller bases with our classic models even if the equivalent new models are mounted on something larger. in general smaller bases are an advantage (except when you are getting hit with a template or blast marker). But I doubt GW will be that concerned. For instance, my metal Chaos Marauders came with 20mm bases. But I put them on 25mm bases because, at the time, that is what the current plastic marauders came with. Is everybody as concerned about these details as me? Probably not! |
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Post by Golgfag on Dec 8, 2021 14:03:08 GMT
While I would prefer they not upscale, ultimately I can live with it, not as if the scale did not change in the past and we survived.
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Post by mottdon on Dec 8, 2021 19:40:46 GMT
Yeah, if the scale stays the same or they upscale it a bit, really won't matter that much, imo. Just looking at the differences between the new Witch Hunters and the old, there isn't much noticable change. I'm good with it.
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Post by Lizards_of_Renown on Dec 8, 2021 23:58:02 GMT
Just as long as different sized minis can be fielded.
If they can't, well, we'll always have the 8th. No-one can take that away from us.
They tried.
And failed.
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Post by KevinC on Dec 9, 2021 4:50:31 GMT
-------------Remember though, they still do LOTR and WH30K miniatures that have not increased in scale (to my knowledge). This could hold true for the Old World. Do you think The Old World will have a completely separate model range? I've been assuming GW will market it as compatible with AoS models. --------------Well, I don't know what their marketing strategy is. But, the one thing we can kinda gauge it on is 30K. That game is still pretty much intact with 7th edition 40K. I still think GW messed up when AOS came out, they could have made rules for the New AOS models for WFB 8th edition to keep people interested. Imagine if each AOS army book had like 5-10 pages dedicated to using the models of the new army book in WFB? That would have been cool. I think they are going to go for a different feel from AOS though, and one way to do that is to not scale everything up. But it could be a marketing strategy to make the bases larger, for example Men and Elves are now on 30 mm squares. Even if they say, old players can use their old army on their old bases, many players will feel compelled to convert to the new stuff. That's basically what happened with AOS. So I don't know, they could do anything. I'm still more excited to play WFB 8 edition. |
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Post by mottdon on Dec 10, 2021 12:26:31 GMT
Do you think The Old World will have a completely separate model range? I've been assuming GW will market it as compatible with AoS models. --------------Well, I don't know what their marketing strategy is. But, the one thing we can kinda gauge it on is 30K. That game is still pretty much intact with 7th edition 40K. I still think GW messed up when AOS came out, they could have made rules for the New AOS models for WFB 8th edition to keep people interested. Imagine if each AOS army book had like 5-10 pages dedicated to using the models of the new army book in WFB? That would have been cool. I think they are going to go for a different feel from AOS though, and one way to do that is to not scale everything up. But it could be a marketing strategy to make the bases larger, for example Men and Elves are now on 30 mm squares. Even if they say, old players can use their old army on their old bases, many players will feel compelled to convert to the new stuff. That's basically what happened with AOS. So I don't know, they could do anything. I'm still more excited to play WFB 8 edition. HEAR, HEAR! THIS! I seriously doubt that they'll change base size. They know who they're marketing to. They'll have lots of shiny new toys and armies for the "Old Guard",like us, to buy, and we will. They'll still make their money by the fistful. Doing something like changing a base size structure will only prove to alienate players. They know that and won't risk it based off what - a personal preference?!? AoS will still be GW's flagship game for fantasy, and get it's own stuff. TOW will be a flagship for Forgeworld, along with BB. This probably means we won't be receiving as many releases, as frequently, as AoS, but hey-! Now, I'm sure they'll keep to the same "Big Centerpiece" model designs of AoS because that has proven effective with sales. But I can imagine that they'll be sticking to the large-r armies we've seen in the past, which calls for a smaller scale. |
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