Dark elf fast cav and gun line

Sry but you really need to clean up everything from BattleScribe.

We only need model/unit name, number of models, add ons and total points.

Hi

What are you up against? Do you want an all comers or opted list.

You have a solid base(sorceress, riders, bolts, warlocks) but there is room for improvements. Also those unit’s can win game by themselves so think you can run it just as it is. You will struggle against high toughness high AS units. Maybe a s6 peg master or two could help. Or the stunning cold one knights.

Also in my group running 5 points over is very frown upon as we all fight to get what we need under the point limit (you can just remove a champ)

I would not run without a bsb even MSU but that’s my preference . Pegasus master with CoT fits your list very well.

Shades I would rather do 2x5 so you can afford to chaff em away without worry about giving up points. Also double flee shenanigans.

Don’t think you need ToP on the level two? Thinking about it I don’t think you need the level two at all as you have 4 sorc and will not have enough power dice to use em all. I would put the ToP on the level 4 and add a dispel scroll on her.

I would not upgrade to champ in the units you get 1+ BS as I find it seldom worth it.

Also in general units in core usually comes with an extra costs so I try to keep the core at minimum. But DE have very solid core so not as important.

What’s your plan with your characters? As I think the level 4 is enough you will run here with either DFW or DR. As you only get help against shooting if have 5 or more RnF I would remove champ in DFW so you can run her there(champ doesn’t count towards the 5 RnF rule).

Also I know there is a shooty DE tourney champion list on the Ulthuan webpage that smashes HE, I see if I can link it

Cool. Thank you for feedback.
I’m a frequent user of sorceress on Pegasus or just switching that for morathi, who can bring +6-8 on her magic rolls.
I would drop one doomfire master. 4 casters is pointlessly excessive. I really like the doomfires as they are a strong unit and having a unit popping up and throwing doombolt around is great.
But I want to keep the level 2 with lore of death for character assasination on hordes. I’ve not tested this but want to see if I can make it work. If I see I can’t work it I’ll lose it.
Can split the 10 strong cav into fives. In fact I may just add an alternate list here.

Yeah, people aren’t bothered when you’re 70points under but 4 points over!!! Can drop a small add on somewhere.
This is a list where I want to explore magic, shooting and speed abilities of the army. When I’ve been going toe to toe with hordes I’ve just not been making a dent, so I’m not focusing on a fighting force here.
I’ve run a similar list with karibdys and a substantial block of witch elves too. You have to wait for witch elves to reach target before they can release incredible amounts of attacks. Usually, no matter how many I bring I’m down to around 10 or less when they get there.

Ive not seen the karibdys have much of a look in anywhere, but with his/her and magic leadership shenanigans this could change the game on hordes.
We found a broken rule when I played high elves:
Kharibdys forces re rolls on passed leadership tests and the high elves (had something) that enabled them to re-roll all failed ones.
God damn those high elves.
On gobos the kharibdys would be brutal.

You can run the level 4 with death as you already have 2 doom bolts. Also better LD for sniping. And a better soublight for all your bolts.

You never reroll rerolls so think you do something wrong with the high elves?


“RE-ROLL
In some situations, the rules allow you to pick up and re-roll a dice. This is exactly what it sounds like – pick up the dice you wish to re-roll, and roll it again. The second score counts, even if it means a worse result than the first, and no single dice can be re-rolled more than once, regardless of the source of the re-roll.

If you re-roll a single 2D6 or 3D6 roll, you must re-roll all of the dice and not just some of them, unless the rule granting the re-roll specifies otherwise.”

Excerpt From
WARHAMMER RULEBOOK

Might I suggest a little tweak to your list? Drop dark magic, it’s nice but u want to maximise that sweet sweet shooting and AP of your x-Bows... take Lore of heavens.. u want to be casting curse of the midnight wind... to make him reroll his to hits and wounds of 6, u want to cast harmonic convergence so you can reroll your rolls of 1’s. wind blast will push his units back every turn so u can have more turns shooting from close range! And secondary to all that u get comet of cas vs dawi assholes, and if all else fails your signature spell means he is at minus 1 to shoot you... in tellin you brother, as a long LONG time Druchii player and tourney go’er, you NEED this in your life!

Ok. I’ll check heavens out. I hadn’t considered it...

The sacrificial dagger is great if you're killing off cheap Dreadspears/Bleakswords, but you don't want to be using it on Dark Riders or Doomfire Warlocks. Both Sorceresses in the list are mounted, so that's their choice of bunkers.

One could go on foot and in the Darkshards, but I think even they're too expensive to be using the dagger on, particularly when they've been upgraded with shields.