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Post by jukei on May 21, 2020 14:58:43 GMT
Hi everyone.
Here you are my crooked teeth tribe.
This is not a shooting army this is a freak aggressive contingent who wants to claim a huge region in the badlands.
They think it's time to show everyody ( orcs included) that size doesn't matter....:-)
I hope you like.
I am open to suggestions to make it even stronger...because we know..goblins are da best :-)
Goblin 2400 (Warhammer Fantasy 8th ed) [2,397.50pts]
Lords [323pts]
Goblin Great Shaman [245pts]
Wizard Level 4 [35pts]
Dispel Scroll [25pts], BRB - Opal Amulet [15pts], BRB - Ruby Ring of Ruin [25pts]
Goblin Warboss [78pts] General
Selections: Light Armour [3pts]
Dragonbane Gem [5pts], BRB - Enchanted Shield [5pts]
Heroes [347pts]
Goblin Big Boss [151pts]
Selections: Light Armour [2pts], Shield [2pts], Short Bow [2pts]
Battle Standard Bearer [110pts]- Spider Banner (Goblin BSB only) [85pts]
Goblin Big Boss [66pts]
Light Armour [2pts], Shield [2pts]
Giant Wolf [12pts]
Dragonhelm [10pts], BRB - Warrior Bane [5pts]
Night Goblin Shaman [130pts]
Wizard Level 2 [35pts]
Obsidian Lodestone [45pts]
Core [647.50pts]
Goblin Wolf Riders [50pts]
Goblin Wolf Riders [50pts]
Goblin Wolf Riders [50pts]
Goblins [168.50pts]
Selections: Boss [10pts], Musician [10pts], 3x Nasty Skulker [30pts], Standard Bearer [10pts]
31x Goblin [108.50pts] 31x Shields [15.50pts]
Night Goblins [329pts]
Boss [10pts], Musician [10pts], Netters [45pts], 2x Night Goblin Fanatics [50pts], Standard Bearer [10pts]
68x Night Goblin [204pts]
68x Short Bows
Special [480pts]
Goblin Spear Chukka [35pts]
Goblin Spear Chukka [35pts]
Goblin Wolf Chariot [50pts]
Goblin Wolf Chariot [50pts]
2x Goblin Wolf Chariot [100pts]
6x Troll [210pts]
Rare [600pts]
Arachnarok Spider [290pts]
Giant [200pts]
Mangler Squigs [65pts]
Snotling Pumpwagon [45pts]
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Post by grandmasterwang on May 22, 2020 12:42:47 GMT
I'm really liking that list.
I think it would be awesome to play and awesome to play against. The spider banner is a nice touch.
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Post by jukei on May 22, 2020 15:14:28 GMT
I'm really liking that list. I think it would be awesome to play and awesome to play against. The spider banner is a nice touch. thanks for taking the time to read and to reply. I appreciate it and I am glad you find the list cool. I have been working on this list for a while ( combining obvisouly the miniatures I have and the experience I v'e already had with some elements of the army). It came out something really enjoyble to play which won't disappoint in terms of fun also the opponent ! I was tempted to give the BSB the standard of discipline but , as you wrote, I could not resist to our spider banner. BSB in almost 70 goblins with poisoned arrows it's a thing not to underestestimate. He has only a AS 5+ but we cannot protect him better ....( by the way, against snipe magic he has a nice WS 4++ given by the goblin wizard with MR3 !) I think the opponent will not consider him as a main target because I am putting pressure since the first turn with my Giant , aracknarok, pumpwagon , mangler , trolls , wolf chariots... He will be busy with other things...ehehh The General is deployed in the common goblins bunker ( with 3 skulkers ) + ( maybe ) wizard lev 4 . I say "maybe "because He has the fire ring and I should be sure he can use it because he needs line of sight for it. This unit should be in the middle of the deployment. ( NG night gonlins T trolls G goblins) NGNGNGNGNGNG TTT NGNGNGNGNGNG TTT NGNGNGNGNGNG GGG NGNGNGNGNGNG GGG |
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Post by jukei on May 22, 2020 15:15:56 GMT
On the right I generally have my wolf chariots and aracknarock
Giant can be far on one side of the board with his L10
I have 3 chaff units and a nice hero on a wolf to harass WM or whatever I need.
the Aracknarock often it's out of the General D bubble.
I need to keep near trolls and push them forward and also 2 chariots . if they check panic ( and they will ) I need them not to flee.
Aracknarock instead is immune to psych and I can deploy next to him chaff or chariots without the risk of a failed panic check.
there are plenty of ideas behind the list which I will be happy to explain in case some of you is curious.
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Post by sedge on May 22, 2020 16:47:10 GMT
Don't always relegate the Arachnarok to the flanks. Up against the right opponent, it can happily tarpit a more expensive unit that your gobbos would rather not deal with. Any expensive semi-elite S4 infantry that doesn't have poison or armour piercing is going to really struggle to hack it down, while the Spider (and crew) whittle down your opponent. Mine did well against a large Saurus block and handled a Cold One Cavalry flank charge at the same time recently.
S4 multi-attack models will obliterate regular Goblins, but can't get through an Arachnarok's toughness/armour/wounds/Stubborn. Keeping it near a BSB or General so it doesn't run after that one dodgy combat will massively up its staying power.
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Post by jukei on May 22, 2020 17:45:02 GMT
Don't always relegate the Arachnarok to the flanks. Up against the right opponent, it can happily tarpit a more expensive unit that your gobbos would rather not deal with. Any expensive semi-elite S4 infantry that doesn't have poison or armour piercing is going to really struggle to hack it down, while the Spider (and crew) whittle down your opponent. Mine did well against a large Saurus block and handled a Cold One Cavalry flank charge at the same time recently. S4 multi-attack models will obliterate regular Goblins, but can't get through an Arachnarok's toughness/armour/wounds/Stubborn. Keeping it near a BSB or General so it doesn't run after that one dodgy combat will massively up its staying power. hi Sedge , thanks a lot for your comment. I will keep in mind this in my next battle. It's a sound tactical suggestion. The "issue" of this list is that I have a lot of units and they can panic very easily if they are ouside the General discipline bubble. Deployment has a huge importance . I don't want to see half army leaving the battlefield too early :-) |
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Post by Tubis on Jul 5, 2020 23:55:46 GMT
I realize this post has been sitting here for a while, but it is about goblins so I feel I need to speak out  . I like your list, I think you have the right selection of units. That being said, I think the night goblin archer horde with the spider banner is a bit of a one trick pony. They will die in droves to any combat units and you don't have many other tarpits. If you are investing so many points, at least give them nets. That bsb is as good as dead and he has nowhere to hide, once the fighting starts. I would eihter give him some protective gear, or move him to the generals unit and take the standard of discipline instead. I know you want to avoid that, but LD9 vs 8 makes a big difference. I also don't think you need three units of wolf riders, if you have the wolf hero and a ton of chariots. You can probably get by with a single unit. You could use those points and swap one spear chukka for a doom diver. The spear chukkas miss or blow up more often than not and the diver is very accurate. Finally, if you really want to go crazy, try out a goblin warlord with the wizardring hat. Most of the spells from the basic lores are crazy good for goblins, esp. stuff like wildform or the lore of life regeneration. |
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Post by Horace on Jul 6, 2020 11:04:39 GMT
I realize this post has been sitting here for a while, but it is about goblins so I feel I need to speak out . I like your list, I think you have the right selection of units. That being said, I think the night goblin archer horde with the spider banner is a bit of a one trick pony. They will die in droves to any combat units and you don't have many other tarpits. If you are investing so many points, at least give them nets. That bsb is as good as dead and he has nowhere to hide, once the fighting starts. I would eihter give him some protective gear, or move him to the generals unit and take the standard of discipline instead. I know you want to avoid that, but LD9 vs 8 makes a big difference. I also don't think you need three units of wolf riders, if you have the wolf hero and a ton of chariots. You can probably get by with a single unit. You could use those points and swap one spear chukka for a doom diver. The spear chukkas miss or blow up more often than not and the diver is very accurate. Finally, if you really want to go crazy, try out a goblin warlord with the wizardring hat. Most of the spells from the basic lores are crazy good for goblins, esp. stuff like wildform or the lore of life regeneration. Unfortunately you can not give them nets because the Spider Banner is Goblin only and nets are a Night Goblin thing |
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Post by Tubis on Jul 6, 2020 11:31:28 GMT
I realize this post has been sitting here for a while, but it is about goblins so I feel I need to speak out . I like your list, I think you have the right selection of units. That being said, I think the night goblin archer horde with the spider banner is a bit of a one trick pony. They will die in droves to any combat units and you don't have many other tarpits. If you are investing so many points, at least give them nets. That bsb is as good as dead and he has nowhere to hide, once the fighting starts. I would eihter give him some protective gear, or move him to the generals unit and take the standard of discipline instead. I know you want to avoid that, but LD9 vs 8 makes a big difference. I also don't think you need three units of wolf riders, if you have the wolf hero and a ton of chariots. You can probably get by with a single unit. You could use those points and swap one spear chukka for a doom diver. The spear chukkas miss or blow up more often than not and the diver is very accurate. Finally, if you really want to go crazy, try out a goblin warlord with the wizardring hat. Most of the spells from the basic lores are crazy good for goblins, esp. stuff like wildform or the lore of life regeneration. Unfortunately you can not give them nets because the Spider Banner is Goblin only and nets are a Night Goblin thing I think we both read his army list wrong. His night goblin horde has nets already (and fanatics). The spider banner is carried by a common goblin bsb who goes into the said archer horde and gives them poison shots (all ok with the rules as nothing prevents normal goblins joining night goblin units). |
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Post by Horace on Jul 6, 2020 11:41:16 GMT
Ahh, never considered doing that  Excellent |
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Post by jukei on Jul 6, 2020 13:07:28 GMT
Thanks Tubis for your post.I appreciated...
-Nets are already there ( I agree ..it's an important upgrade)
- It's a horde formation so BSB is in the corner and near the night goblins unit I always want the other little bunker of goblin for characters in which my bsb can jump in case of extreme danger.
- it's not a 1 trick pony because ...
a) I can shoot venom arrows Monsters, heavy khights or other juicy target
b) I have several chaffs in order to slow down enemies and give me more time to shoot...( so chaff is crucial )
c) 68 +2 fanatics + netters are a great tarpit IMHO. ( with or without the BSB)
d) if they are engaged in fight too much early chariots kamikaze will charge the enemy unit on the flank and I will soften the enemy for my final assault ( I have trolls ...giant ..aracknarock ..5 chariots..They will finish what goblin started.
e) they are in the general bubble always and they are steadfast, at least for a while.
f) In my last 3 battles I used chaff ..for buying time...shooting as much as I could and in melee they kept the line ...and I charged on the flank with aracknarock and chariots winning the fight in the last 2 turns.
they are useful because in the resolution they give me rank bonus...+music+standard + I wil have my charge on the flank and for sure goblin will die in droves...but I will also cause several casualties...
Aracknarock is stubborn ( with D8 because of my general ...) giant also ( L10 stubborn ) +so even if I lose in resolution I will grind enemy also in the following turn
I agree with you regarding the spear chakra...and even more about the doom divers.
Unfortunately I cannot have more than 600 points in rare slot.
I also like your suggestion about the wizarding hat.
I find problems here to find the points ..but I don't exclude once to try it and let you know.
thanks again for your help and please keep posting and sharing your idea.
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