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Post by Lizards_of_Renown on Dec 4, 2020 19:29:44 GMT
Hi everyone.
So I'm a fairly experienced 8th Edition player (mostly Lizardmen) but am very inexperienced on Tomb Kings.
I've been collecting them for ages as I love the whole Egyptian motif and lore. Fantastic stuff.
I have some ridiculous amount of models:
2 Tomb Kings, 1 TK on chariot, 4 Liche Priests, 1 Liche Priest on SS, Khalida, 12 Ushabti, 3 Tomb Scorpions, 73 Skeles, 36 Skele archers, 20 chariots, 2 Necrosphinxes, 5 Tomb Swarms (total waste but whatever), 12 Necroknights, 6 Stalkers, Casket of Souls, 2 Bone Giants (for either of the big guy) and one Screaming Skull Catapault.
I'm looking for successful tactics that TK generals have used in the past.
Please share!
Cheers!
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:13:53 GMT
Hi, first of all congratulations for the great collection... It will give you the flexibility and the possibility to build several different lists. TK is my main army. It takes time to get used to their stategies but I think they can give you a huge satisfaction once you start to know how they work.
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:30:19 GMT
Let's say that our "strenght" is Magic .
1) In each list I would always select the casket of souls. I think you know why...
2) a Level 4 is a must. our lore seems to be not that great but if used properly it helps a lot to boost our troops and not only. A special charaxter I like to play is Khatep He is reliable and He knows all the lore. Arkhan also is a great choise!
3) Some are playing a second Level 4 high priest lore of light Generally I don't like to invest so many points in magic. Dice are limited.... but you can try it out...
4) you can also play 2 o 3 liche Priests lore of light The purpose is to maximise Banishment spell. ( not my cup of tea) but lot of players are playing Tk in this way.
5)Hierotitan I love this giant His spells can be handy .Specially his burning gaze and his bonus for me is really important. I always play him together with the casket. He can be also a bodyguard of a unit. Useful for his stomping attack... flank charging ...and so on
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:35:35 GMT
so you can decide to invest a lot in magic...or maybe go for a shooting list ( always supported with the NK lore) Here Khalida is shining But you need a big unit of archers to maximise her bonus. + 2 Catapult and use several chaff units to slow down the enemy Some units are fast and we need to buy as much time as we can. I would also use 2 stalkers units. They are useful vs Monster ..War machines and they can come up from the sand and shooting in the same turn.
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:39:38 GMT
If you want to try necronights I think you should use 2 units ( 2 x 5 or 6) Lore of light is a great support for them But their large base is sometimes a problem if you don't play in a open field. I like them .The have the best Armour save ( 3+) ( Some players are Using them with Rhamothep ...for rerolling the AS. In this case you should avoid other costructs in your list ...)
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:41:17 GMT
Scorpions are not that great Imho but you can find home for them in some list ...they can pop up but not charging in the same turn.
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:42:43 GMT
Ushabti....go big or go home. They work very good in a midium /large unit. great weapon S6 is what we need and WS 4 is really not that bad.
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:44:42 GMT
Chariots are useful...but I think a unit should be 3 or max 4 I used to play in the beginning a "very fast" list but you lose very easily the rank for the bonus to impact hits and once they stuck in combat they are performing not so good.( even with a prince or Tk )
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 12:47:03 GMT
skeletons....Uhmmmm once you try them you know them and you like them They are meant to be used as tarpit ....yes sure but sometimes they can perform very good and also surprise you if ....if...
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 13:05:46 GMT
A list I like to play includes
Magic
Khatep casket Hierotitan
I know all the lore and rerolling a dice is priceless
( you can add a liche lev 1 for the dispel scroll)
Shooting
1 Unit of 37 -38 archers horde formation with khatep and a TK ( or prince) not so easy to remove this unit with their WS 5 /6 and Regen 6+
khatep has to try always to cast x2 shooting spell on the unit.
it's a great Bunker
( Hierotitan is near to bodyguard the unit...and to give the bonus to Khatep)
FIGHTING
1 warsphinx ....( is for target saturation and for giving us a great support in fighting ) Opponwnt has to decide where to focus WM fire Hierotitan? casket? Sphinx?.... Generally he cannot kill everything in time
1 big unit of skeleton warriors ( 60 to 70) Horde formation TK general and necrotect Ws 6+ plus hatred is cool But this is not the point this unit without magic support will not win so many fights but it will be very difficult to remove from the table. WIth magical support....eheheh You can be surprised. If you debuff the enemy ( Nehek -D3 Toughness) they can really do something for you with bonus such as killing blow ....or +1 attack ( Ptra 's incantation)
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 13:09:18 GMT
1 unit of Ushabti ( min 8) great weapons Generally I try to support them with Neru's Incantation ( WS5+) Btw is essential they are in the range of the architect in order to have a Reg 6+
1 unit of chariots /banner of eternal flame. I like this unit. It helps to remove regeneration.
Good on a flank
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 13:10:11 GMT
there are other ways to play tk but I hope for now you have an idea.... and I hope that somehow I could help you a bit.
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Post by Lizards_of_Renown on Dec 5, 2020 14:43:04 GMT
there are other ways to play tk but I hope for now you have an idea.... and I hope that somehow I could help you a bit. Brilliant. Thanks. I'm putting a list together and will tell you when I've put it up for any comments/critiques!
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 20:09:18 GMT
++ tk 2500 (Warhammer Fantasy 8th ed) [2,498pts] +++
++ Standard (Tomb Kings - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.4.) [2,498pts] ++
+ Uncategorised +
- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)
+ Lords [603pts] +
Grand Hierophant Khatep [330pts]: AB - Scroll of the Cursing Word, AB - The Liche Staff, Hierophant, Lore of Nehekhara, Wizard Level 4
Tomb King [273pts]: Shield [3pts] AB - Blade of Antarhak [50pts], BRB - Ironcurse Icon [5pts], BRB - Talisman of Preservation [45pts]
+ Heroes [214pts] +
Necrotect [60pts]: Whip
Tomb Prince [154pts]: Great Weapon [4pts] BRB - Armour of Silvered Steel [45pts], BRB - Dragonbane Gem [5pts]
+ Core [731pts] +
Skeleton Archers [224pts]: Musician [10pts], 34x Skeleton Archers [204pts], Standard Bearer [10pts]
Skeleton Chariots [175pts]: Standard Bearer [10pts]
Skeleton Horse Archers [70pts]: Skeletal Steed, 5x Skeleton Horse Archers [70pts]
Skeleton Warriors [262pts]: Champion [10pts], Musician [10pts], 58x Skeleton Warriors [232pts], Standard Bearer [10pts]
+ Special [640pts] +
Khemrian Warsphinx [230pts]: 4x Crew, Fiery Roar [20pts]
Ushabti [410pts]: Standard Bearer [10pts]
. 8x Ushabti [400pts]: 8x Great Weapon
+ Rare [310pts] +
Casket of Souls [135pts]: 2x Casket Guards, Keeper of the Casket
Hierotitan [175pts]
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Post by jukei on Dec 5, 2020 20:26:05 GMT
here you are one of my best list
TK is the general and with the necrotect is in the 58 Warriors block. This Unit is generally deployed in the middle of the Battlefield
The Tomb King has WS4+ and Blade of Antarhak...( this magic weapon maybe is not that great but In some occasions it worked out very well) Ironcurse is important in order to provide a WS 6+ to this big Unit vs Warmachine
Ushabti are deployed very near to warriors ( remember what I told you about the necrotect .....) they can be also far from our spells' range but it doesn't matter ...they are relieable enough....even without magical support.
on one side of our warriors ...we should deploy our archers.... Khatep has to support mainly this 2 units ( archers and warriors) !!!
On our archers side we want our Hierotitan to support Khatep in the magic phase and bodyguard the archers unit You can use it even as a "chaff" in some cases.
WARNING ...never use him as flank charger in melee where skeletons are involved. He will crumble always.....!!!!!!!!!! ( same for sphinx...!!!!!) do it only in the rare case you are almost sure that you are going to win the fight.
Sphinx is supporting the unit of ushabti ...fiery roar is great. Ushabti +Sphinx are our elite in the list and we need to use them together !
casket deployed somewhwere behind ...on a flank ( remember not so near your units)
chariots generally on a flank ( it depends....on where you think you need them) I prefer to keep them on the Khatep 's unit flank.
horse archers as chaff....
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