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Post by padre on Mar 3, 2021 9:41:23 GMT
Oops. Sorry. Like I alluded to, the pandemic lock down leaves me susceptible to bring drawn into any sort of conversation. But yeah, the issue has been answered very clearly, and the rules, in this particular instance, are also very clear.
I'll get back to reading about the earl of Cumberland's sea voyages!
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Post by anechrome on Mar 3, 2021 10:36:52 GMT
And stop feeding the troll. He is obviously just trolling now and don’t care for any answers or reading the rules. strutsagget Sorry to be offensive or trolling. I thought we had an open discussion about the subject, but if it's unwanted or considered bothersome, I'll just let it go. As I'm new to this forum, and quite frankly to just about all forums, so if you would like to send me a PM explaining what I did wrong that would be much appreciated.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 3, 2021 12:34:36 GMT
Following Onoda Hiro's trail, perhaps?
0:-)
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 3, 2021 17:48:56 GMT
padre: George Clifford, the 3rd Earl of Cumberland Set out to conquer a foreign strand, But, alas, his sea voyage Lacked nautical knowledge, And ended up in Northumberland.
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Post by padre on Mar 3, 2021 18:29:57 GMT
I knew I'd heard something like that but of course it's not in the history books I'm reading. The Spanish came to hate him as an arch pirate, and he went to see quite a few times, or sent privateer fleets out. But yes, there is some truth in the rhyme, as Cumberland himself said at the end of his life, he had thrown his lands into the sea!
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 3, 2021 19:37:44 GMT
Fidelis me fecit.
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Post by padre on Mar 3, 2021 20:07:18 GMT
You might be faithful, but I thought the earl's motto was the Norman French 'Desormais' (Henceforth)?
I know the F in you name stands for Fidelis, but hey ... help me out here? You're my go to guy for latin (the 'classical' tongue in WFRP/WFB) and have helped me several times before, for which gratus sum, but now you're riddling me! Especially, as I seem vagueley to remember the phrase from somewhere.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 3, 2021 20:26:45 GMT
Fidelis made me - the limerick, that is. The phrase X me fecit denotes the craftsman, and already appears on the Praeneste Fibula, of the 7th Century B.C. (one of the earliest Latin inscriptions). It is still being used today e.g. by clock makers and bell casters.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 6, 2021 17:09:11 GMT
To give a finishing touch to this thread:
The rules that Games Workshop created Aren’t usually that complicated; Just with this comply: Normal rules apply, Unless specifically otherwise stated.
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Post by anechrome on Jul 16, 2021 17:28:46 GMT
Soooo, sorry for bringing this up again, but I just got my hands on the Storm of Magic and found this: Fozzrik's Floating Fortress on p.54. "If there is a unit in FFF... ...the garrisoning player can have it make a Hover move at the end of his Remaining Moves sub-phase - this does not prevent the garrison from shooting Move or Fire weapons."
This is exactly what I was talking about before. A unit (in the FFF) is being moved, but they are not themselves moving and thus they can fire Move or Fire weapons.
There, now I'm done. Promise. Bye.
Edit: I'll be happy to keep discussing, but don't dare to do it here anymore. Send me a PM if interested.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jul 16, 2021 18:12:43 GMT
I refer to my very first post in this thread: You are probably referring to the "Hand of Gork" spell. Most rules questions can be easily resolved by applying this principle: unless specifically stated otherwise, normal rules apply. Since the spell description does not specifically state otherwise, normal rules apply, and the unit would have counted as having moved. and then want to draw your attention to that part of the FFF rule that specifically states otherwise: "this does not prevent the garrison from shooting Move or Fire weapons."
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Post by vulcan on Jul 17, 2021 1:41:51 GMT
EDIT: Deleted, referring to old post.
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Post by vulcan on Jul 17, 2021 1:46:28 GMT
Soooo, sorry for bringing this up again, but I just got my hands on the Storm of Magic and found this: Fozzrik's Floating Fortress on p.54. "If there is a unit in FFF... ...the garrisoning player can have it make a Hover move at the end of his Remaining Moves sub-phase - this does not prevent the garrison from shooting Move or Fire weapons." This is exactly what I was talking about before. A unit (in the FFF) is being moved, but they are not themselves moving and thus they can fire Move or Fire weapons. There, now I'm done. Promise. Bye. Edit: I'll be happy to keep discussing, but don't dare to do it here anymore. Send me a PM if interested. You're missing the entire point. FFF has a specific rule saying you CAN move and shoot without penalty, so long as FFF is doing the moving. The spells that move units do NOT have this rule. It really is that simple. PM me with a response if you really feel a need to continue this, but you're overthinking things. You really are.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jul 17, 2021 11:09:22 GMT
You're missing the entire point. FFF has a specific rule saying you CAN move and shoot without penalty, so long as FFF is doing the moving. Strictly speaking that is not the case. The FFF rules specifically allow weapons with the Move or Fire rule to be used, but do not address any penalties for moving and shooting. That said, if MoF weapons can be fired, that does imply that other missile weapons do not suffer a penalty for moving and shooting.
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Post by vulcan on Jul 18, 2021 1:06:45 GMT
You're missing the entire point. FFF has a specific rule saying you CAN move and shoot without penalty, so long as FFF is doing the moving. Strictly speaking that is not the case. The FFF rules specifically allow weapons with the Move or Fire rule to be used, but do not address any penalties for moving and shooting. That said, if MoF weapons can be fired, that does imply that other missile weapons do not suffer a penalty for moving and shooting. Good catch. No exception to the penalty, then the penalty stands regardless of what is implied. Permissive rules, remember. If you don't have permission from the rules, you can't do it.
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