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Post by DiscoQing on Mar 23, 2021 8:20:38 GMT
Hey,
The Bretonnia "Gauntlet of the Duel" item, forces the bearer to always issue a challenge and it must be accepted...
How would that item work against Skaven characters?
One rule exempting challenges, the other forcing their acceptance.
Thanks!
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 23, 2021 8:36:12 GMT
Not quite. Verminous Valour provides an exemption to the rule that one cannot use the Ld (or the Hold Your Ground rule) of the model that is placed in the back rank, when a challenge has been refused. It does not allow the Skaven player to refuse a mandatory challenge.
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Post by DiscoQing on Mar 23, 2021 19:44:02 GMT
Ahhhhh I see. I think over the years it's just become "Skaven characters can refuse a challenge", sometimes it helps to re-read the actual wording!
Thanks!
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 23, 2021 20:35:40 GMT
It always helps to re-read the actual wording. So, that is what I do.
Note also that Verminous Valour does provide another exemption: as a result of refusing a challenge, a champion can be placed in the back too (not quite "as normal").
Skaven Official Update Version 1.7, p.1: Page 33 – Verminous Valour.
Change the second paragraph to “If a Skaven player refuses a challenge, a Skaven character or champion is placed in the back rank as normal and may not attack, but the unit may still use the model’s Leadership value.”
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Mar 27, 2021 17:31:21 GMT
And even when I re-read the rules, I still manage to miss something. Well, it is easy to miss something that is not there. The Erratum I just quoted does not include the earlier exemption for the "Battle Standard ability." Hence, contrary to my earlier post, no exemption for the Hold Your Ground! ability.
Quandoque bonus dormitat Fidelis...
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