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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Jul 29, 2015 22:38:45 GMT
 look at me!!!
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Jul 30, 2015 0:51:57 GMT
^Is very nice
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Sept 1, 2015 22:21:18 GMT
Almost done with the second Liberator unit...I'll try to post pics tonight. I realize it's been awhile since I posted pics of minis.
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Sept 1, 2015 22:38:00 GMT
Your yellow and red plastic thingies make me want to go buy a 3D printer.
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Sept 17, 2015 1:29:38 GMT
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Post by Anton on Sept 17, 2015 7:35:15 GMT
Looking great! The choice of colours is very effective.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 17, 2015 13:13:32 GMT
I love the colors you've chosen, but I have to admit, I prefer to see a drybrush technique used on large areas with high/low points, such as the giant loin cloths or the shoulder guards. The highlight lines show up too much on those areas. I find that highlighting is best used along edges to emphasize an abrupt end or sharp point.
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Sept 17, 2015 14:15:21 GMT
I hear you about the drybrushing Don. As my painting evolved I realize that I was only using drybrush technique on things like animal fur. Even dragon scales and chainmail get individually painted now. As I thought about why I abandoned it I realized that at the time I was entering tournaments for painting awards and the majority of the top entries featured more precise edge highlights. This is not a knock on drybrushing or anyone's figures...I just got to a point where I felt edge highlighting did more to show off my skill as a painter.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 17, 2015 15:13:32 GMT
Really! I never would have thought that! I guess people just don't really see the more subtle gradations from shadow to light? Or maybe they actually think that it's just one flat color and actual shadow and light being reflected? That boggles my mind, but I have really noticed that people seem never to comment on that. They only seem to pick up on the abrupt changes in color. I guess it just stands out more. I've kinda been dumbfounded more than once about how much praise someone will get over a rather mediocre paint job. I've always chalked it up to either ignorance, trying to welcome a newcomer, or simply sucking up, but I guess if I look at it as instantly grabbing someone's fleeting attention, then that makes sense.
It bothered me enough that I thought I might actually be annoying people with posting my work, or they simply didn't prefer my method, over on W-E so I took down most of it. I don't consider myself an expert painter or anything, but I have studied art and design (architecture) and come from a family of professional artists. Heck, even my father-in-law is a senior professor of graphic design (art) and he loves what I do! Color harmony isn't something that's new to me and I pick up of subtle details rather quickly, so this has quite confused me!
I by no means want to down-play your work. It is quite obvious that you've got a plethora of talent. I was just wondering why you did what you did. Well, I guess now I know.
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Sept 17, 2015 15:57:26 GMT
I agree with Rick - Judges round here tend to think highlighting > drybrushing, skill wise. I don't 100% agree. I tend to feel like I like drybrushing better, overall. It lends more grittiness to each miniature. Highlighting/Lines feels very model showcase to me.
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Sept 17, 2015 16:00:18 GMT
I love conversations like this. Your art background is so useful for mini painting and it is clear that you know what you're doing.
I think you hit it on the comment about more abrupt color changes. At least in my region of the U.S., we have a particular style that always wins top prize in painting competitions. Honestly it has become a bit of a joke in my gaming club. "Just make your army teal, pink, orange, and purple and you've got it".
Not my cup of tea but the judges salivate for those colors. In contrast, a gradually blended realistic approach does not get the same attention. Don't stop posting.
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Sept 17, 2015 16:01:46 GMT
"NEEDS MORE TURQUOISE"
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Sept 17, 2015 16:26:30 GMT
Another thing that happened to my painting was the period when I was painting a lot of space marines. To look "showcase" I forced myself to do edge highlights. Then I think those edge highlights ended up in all of my other projects. Without edge highlights or an airbrush (which I don't know how to use) I can't even think of how to make space marines look good enough to show off.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 17, 2015 16:35:08 GMT
One thing we say in architecture, if you need the entrance to your building to stand out for whatever reason, "Just paint it red." There's several reasons for this. It immediately draws attention, it can direct the flow of foot traffic (yes, architects actually manipulate where we want people to go with design), and it can detract from some not-so-attractive portions of the building (aka, the service entrances, utilities, etc.).  Ricardo Legorreta is a famous modern-style architect who masters this. Guess where the door is. He does this a LOT in his architecture and your eye naturally gravitates to certain areas due to the shape, orientation and color. This is probably the sane reasoning behind people "preferring" the bold highlights whether they know it or not. Their eyes naturally gravitate to them. It doesn't actually mean that they are good paint jobs or bad, it just means that they're attention has been captivated and held longer than anything else. There are so many images out there of amazingly beautiful models that have been painted with airbrush. That's all well and good, but IMO, it kinda like racing someone in a formula 1 race car while you're driving a station wagon. If you can drive that wagon and still make a good race of it and sometimes even win, who would you consider to be the better driver? There is a guy on Painting Buddha who does an AMAZING job of wet blending and source lighting. That is the epitome of expert model painting, IMO.
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Post by roughtimes on Sept 19, 2015 0:31:44 GMT
These are really nice. I wasn't in love with the models before but you've given me a different perspective.
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