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Post by knoffles on Aug 23, 2021 9:23:22 GMT
I thought I’d post this up here as Azaro won a 5 game tournament with the following list, without dropping a single game. His opponents included: OnG (*2), TK, WE and Skaven. Beastlord: heavy armour; shield; Sword of Battle; Ramhorn Helm; Gouge-tusks; Gnarled Hide; The Other Trickster's Shard; Dawnstone 254Great Bray-Shaman: Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; Fencer's Blades; Talisman of Preservation; Jagged Dagger; Uncanny Senses 335Bray-Shaman: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; additional hand weapon; Dispel Scroll; Ruby Ring of Ruin 162Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 19148 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 4095 Ungor Raiders: Musician 335 Ungor Raiders: Musician 335 Ungor Raiders: Musician 335 Ungor Raiders: Musician 335 Ungor Raiders: Musician 335 Ungor Raiders: Musician 33Tuskgor Chariot 80Tuskgor Chariot 80Tuskgor Chariot 8038 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline) 501Razorgor 55Razorgor 552,400 points
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Post by beastyboy on Aug 24, 2021 5:32:25 GMT
Brave to have the beast banner and a 4+ armour save.
Also having the beastlord without a ward ....
Was it a comped tournament ?
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Post by pinge on Aug 24, 2021 7:36:42 GMT
How do you best use the Ungors? I mean, what good tactics do you use with them? Mine always just die without accomplishing much…
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Post by knoffles on Aug 25, 2021 8:41:10 GMT
Brave to have the beast banner and a 4+ armour save. Also having the beastlord without a ward .... Was it a comped tournament ? They used Swiss Comp and the lists had to be within a score of 11-19 (to limit some of the harder lists).
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Post by knoffles on Aug 25, 2021 8:47:00 GMT
How do you best use the Ungors? I mean, what good tactics do you use with them? Mine always just die without accomplishing much… I only own 10 so i'm always restricted on the number I take but mine are there purely to get in the way of anything I don't want to fight, doing the normal chaff job of blocking a unit at an angle so that they can charge and easily kill the ungor unit but will then have to reform to face what they really want to fight but then i'll have another chaff unit (ungor/razorgor/harpies/even tuskgor chariot) to do exactly the same, effectively taking their unit out of multiple turns until i'm ready to face it (or not depending on what the unit is). If you can constantly redirect a Whitelion deathstar for 4 turns by sacrificing 4 * 30pt units, that is a massive win!
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Post by beastyboy on Aug 25, 2021 10:41:58 GMT
How do you best use the Ungors? I mean, what good tactics do you use with them? Mine always just die without accomplishing much… As an annoyance there job is to die in a usefull manner as possible .. put erm on the flanks 6 inches from any other units in your army don't let a panic chain happen , march and shoot every time occupy scenery. The ones you use as redirectors march and put on angles so they close the door in your benefit.
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Post by beastyboy on Aug 25, 2021 10:43:38 GMT
How do you best use the Ungors? I mean, what good tactics do you use with them? Mine always just die without accomplishing much… As an annoyance there job is to die in a usefull manner as possible .. put erm on the flanks 6 inches from any other units in your army don't let a panic chain happen , march and shoot every time occupy scenery. The ones you use as redirectors march and put on angles so they close the door in your benefit. Or overun a wich elf unit so you can get a flank charge with a horde of gors !
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Post by simon on Aug 25, 2021 20:20:50 GMT
Nice list. Interesting that you can win a tournament without facing HE, DE, WoC or DoC, just luck of the draw or does the comp make those armies less workable?
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Post by knoffles on Aug 26, 2021 12:07:08 GMT
Nice list. Interesting that you can win a tournament without facing HE, DE, WoC or DoC, just luck of the draw or does the comp make those armies less workable? I have asked the question and will let you know. I can confirm that Dwarves came in 2nd and Skaven 3rd so it might have been a favourable draw (though it doesn’t take anything away from the skill of winning 5 of 5 games).
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Post by simon on Aug 26, 2021 13:50:16 GMT
Thanks. Yes of course I wasn’t trying to diminish the win! Just interested to see if the Swiss comp has an effect on choice of faction.
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Post by knoffles on Aug 26, 2021 18:06:08 GMT
Thanks. Yes of course I wasn’t trying to diminish the win! Just interested to see if the Swiss comp has an effect on choice of faction. It wasn’t meant to come across as having a go. Apologies if it did! In theory it’s shouldn’t impact the faction choice, it tries to reward you for taking less optimised choices (and conversely penalises for taking stronger ones). However, if the tournament had agreed all lists should be within a certain rating (and it’s been years since I used the comp so I’m not 100% but pretty sure the comp level played at, promoted softer lists), then it might be that a good number of players had decided to take the generally thought of as lower tier armies as they knew they wouldn’t be facing some of the more brutal lists. It’s a good question.
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Post by knoffles on Aug 26, 2021 18:08:35 GMT
Sods law just after posting that I found out the full list of armies: The following armies took the field: Dwarf 2 Orc and Goblin 3 Beastmen 1 Tomb Kings 1 High Elf 2 Empire 2 Lizardmen 1 Wood elf 1 Vampire Counts 2 Bretonnian 1 Skaven 2
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Post by simon on Aug 26, 2021 18:54:15 GMT
Ok good spread of armies then. No Warriors or Daemons is interesting
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Post by beastyboy on Aug 27, 2021 6:33:29 GMT
Ok good spread of armies then. No Warriors or Daemons is interesting Or dark elves I find beastmen have game against a lot of army's but multiple terraghists , hellpits.... can really be more than any beastman can handle , can only divert so many units with ungor raiders !
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Post by grandmasterwang on Sept 14, 2021 5:25:52 GMT
Ok good spread of armies then. No Warriors or Daemons is interesting Or dark elves I find beastmen have game against a lot of army's but multiple terraghists , hellpits.... can really be more than any beastman can handle , can only divert so many units with ungor raiders ! Hellpits with their 360 charge are the worst.
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