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Post by jamesacon on Sept 4, 2021 8:38:51 GMT
Hey all,
I felt the urge to make an àll mounted army that had all 4 gods present. What do you guys think?
++ Standard (Warriors of Chaos - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.0.) [2,498pts] ++
+ Uncategorised +
- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)
+ Lords +
Chaos Lord [390pts]: Mark of Khorne, Shield . Chaos Mutations & Powers: Burning Body, Soul Feeder . Juggernaut of Khorne . Magic Items: BRB - Charmed Shield, BRB - Ogre Blade, BRB - Talisman of Preservation
+ Heroes +
Chaos Sorcerer [215pts]: Chaos Mutations & Powers, Lore of Tzeentch, Mark of Tzeentch, Wizard Level 2 . Disc of Tzeentch . Magic Items: BRB - Dispel Scroll
Exalted Hero [155pts]: Great weapon, Mark of Nurgle, Shield . Barded Chaos Steed . Chaos Mutations & Powers: Nurgle's Rot
Exalted Hero [178pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, Shield . Chaos Mutations & Powers: Allure of Slaanesh . Magic Items: BRB - Sword of Might . Steed of Slaanesh
+ Core +
Chaos Chariot [115pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Chaos Chariot [115pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Chaos Chariot [115pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Chaos Chariot [115pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
Marauder Horsemen [90pts]: Musician . 5x Marauder Horsemen: 5x Javelins, 5x Mark of Slaanesh
Marauder Horsemen [90pts] . 5x Marauder Horsemen: 5x Flails, 5x Mark of Khorne
+ Special +
Chaos Knights [255pts]: Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer . 5x Chaos Knight: 5x Ensorcelled weapons, 5x Mark of Nurgle
Hellstriders of Slaanesh [220pts]: Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer . 10x Hellstrider: 10x Spears
+ Rare +
Skullcrushers of Khorne [445pts] . Champion . Musician . 5x Skullcrusher: 5x Ensorcelled weapons . Standard Bearer: AB - Banner of Rage (Khorne only)
++ Total: 2498
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 5, 2021 11:41:23 GMT
Seems like a fun theme for a list! Here's my input on your choice of units: Your non-general characters could use some defensive items. The Dawnstone is pretty great for Chaos due to how easy it is to get them to a +1 armour save. The lack of a level 4 wizard might also become somewhat of a problem, to that you might want to consider a different lore on your wizard. I for one love the lore of Nurgle on a mounted sorcerer since that allows the signature spell to truly shine. I've also heard that the Lore of Slaanesh is really strong on a fast spellcaster. If you want a Tzeentchian wizard I'd consider giving him a disc and the lore of metal so that he can fly around shooting at things. You should probably give that unit of Slaaneshi marauder horsemen shields for added defense and spears for added offense. Their khornate counterpart could use a musician.
Mark of Nurgle is really strong on Chariots but your choice of Slaanesh also has merit if you want them flexible enough to avoid unwise combats. As for the hellstriders I'd either take one more or one less so as to have a unit of either 10 or 12 when the character is added to it. I personally wouldn't go over 3 Skullcrushers if you're going to add a character to the unit and the Banner of Rage seems kinda superfluous on them considering that they are very much likely to chew through most things that cross their path. It's also worth mentioning the risk of taking a standard bearer in the unit. While it is unlikely that they would lose a combat if they do and flee the model with the banner would be automatically destroyed which is a considerable blow to the unit if it manages to rally. For the points you'd save I'd consider adding atleast one Gorebeast Chariot of Nurgle; they hit hard and are tough as hell.
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Post by johngg on Sept 8, 2021 10:42:57 GMT
I really like the list personally. I'm running an all Cav Dark Elf list at an event at the end of the month so I'm all in favour of this!! Cavalry isn't the greatest in this edition but its sure fun to run. You should probably give that unit of Slaaneshi marauder horsemen shields for added defence and spears for added offense. While I agree if the purpose of the unit was to actually attack things but 1) he's go the knights / Skullcrushers for that job and b) I think this is more a harassment unit and adding shields would take away the Fast Cav rule. Their khornate counterpart could use a musician. Again I'd agree if these guys were to be utilising the feigned flight rule, but lets be homets, there guys are fire and forget missiles, their job is to sweep away skirmishers, harassers and war machines. If you're planning to flee, do you even BFTBG ?? I personally wouldn't go over 3 Skullcrushers if you're going to add a character to the unit and the Banner of Rage seems kinda superfluous on them considering that they are very much likely to chew through most things that cross their path. It's also worth mentioning the risk of taking a standard bearer in the unit. While it is unlikely that they would lose a combat if they do and flee the model with the banner would be automatically destroyed which is a considerable blow to the unit if it manages to rally. Totally agree, However I'd add the standard of Discipline which double helps with any potential failed combat and to avoid being kited off due to their frenzy. Overall a good list!! When you planning on using it?
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 8, 2021 15:45:00 GMT
While I agree if the purpose of the unit was to actually attack things but 1) he's go the knights / Skullcrushers for that job and b) I think this is more a harassment unit and adding shields would take away the Fast Cav rule. Unless I'm mistaken they only lose the Fast Cav rule if you give them light armour. Even as a designated harassment unit spears could prove useful since going from S3 to S4 on the charge would make them a potent threat for the opponent's chaff and artillery which means that they can't be ignored as easily which equates to attention away from the rest of the army.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Sept 8, 2021 21:52:31 GMT
@sweet_Totally: That is correct: light armour will negate the Fast Cavalry special rule, shields will not.
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Post by johngg on Sept 9, 2021 13:20:08 GMT
Ah my apologies, I knew it was one or the other. I backed the wrong horse 😂
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Post by jamesacon on Sept 10, 2021 9:41:57 GMT
Hey all, Thanks for all the feedback. Sorry I have not replied for a while, been busy with life etc. With my WoC I find offense is the best defence, also the characters are there just to complete the 4 gods. So points are restricted and actual models I own. Your point about majic is valid, but I dont care for it much and would rather a dispell caddy and perhaps some clean majic haha. The javelin riders are there to feign and flight. hopefully drawing out certain units and just a harrasing unit. Usually I would go spears and shields but the hellstriders have that covered. The khornated ones are just fire and forget missiles. The character on the slannesh mount is on the 50mm by 50mm so he would be to the side, but in fairness I plan to run him alone. My favourite unit ever! I usually run 6 haha. These guys I plonk in the middle and get stuck in. Its their durability that has won me games and not so much the killing. The main idea is for these guys to hold the middle, while the other cav units mop up. It may not work though, and is very risky as you have mentioned. Alas I do not have a gorebeast chariot. But they are great! Thanks again for your input mate! Appreciate it Thanks! I'm glad you like it. I plan on using it once Lockdown is over haha. I live in Sydney, Australia. And its looking like mid October.
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 10, 2021 13:40:09 GMT
My favourite unit ever! I usually run 6 haha. These guys I plonk in the middle and get stuck in. Its their durability that has won me games and not so much the killing. The main idea is for these guys to hold the middle, while the other cav units mop up. It may not work though, and is very risky as you have mentioned. Alas I do not have a gorebeast chariot. Have you considered running two units of 3 Skullcrushers instead of the beefy 6 model-regiment? Would force your opponent to split his attention between two very dangerous units so the loss in durability is likely to more than make up for it with the added bite it gives your army. Having 3 Skullcrushers just acting as an additional rank seems like quite a waste to me tbh.
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