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Post by midnightfox0083 on Dec 27, 2021 11:03:13 GMT
The idea that they said models aren't made yet shows this is nonsense. GW keeps an 18-24 month on lead time on all upcoming models. Molds are made no less than 18 months out, sometimes as long as three years. Unless old world is 3 more years away, its impossible. I personally think we see old world summer 2022 if they stick with 3 year editions of their games. Because 2023 would be 10th edition 40k, and 2024 would be AoS 4th. It's doubtful they release two in the same year. So unless they go to a 4 year schedule, summer 2022 seems possible. I have no actual info on this obviously, just speculation based on 0ast behavior. We already know that mainline Horus Heresy is 2022's game. |
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Post by thegoat on Dec 27, 2021 12:23:53 GMT
We already know that mainline Horus Heresy is 2022's game. Yuck, I don't see that taking off. When it performs poorly, I hope it doesn't make GW reconsider The Old World. |
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Post by Golgfag on Dec 27, 2021 15:49:40 GMT
Very excited for the Horus Heresy content, as I read through the entire novel series as part of my keeping sane during various Covid lockdowns/restrictions over the last couple of years, especially after GW killed off my interest in regular 40k with the major plot changes and turned the game in to one huge CCG inspired gimmick.
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Post by KevinC on Dec 27, 2021 18:24:34 GMT
What do you guys mean? A new edition of 30K is coming out? Is that what you are talking about?
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Dec 27, 2021 19:17:21 GMT
What do you guys mean? A new edition of 30K is coming out? Is that what you are talking about? Yup and rumors say with a launch box and the 3 levels of Starters like the Big 2.
Rumored contents of the Launch Box:
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Dec 27, 2021 19:19:21 GMT
We already know that mainline Horus Heresy is 2022's game. Yuck, I don't see that taking off. When it performs poorly, I hope it doesn't make GW reconsider The Old World.
Why not? The most common complaint of 30K is how inaccessible the game is to the average player. Both previous 30K boxes sold like crazy. Add in that the box apparently contains one of if not THE most popular Power Armor Marks(MkVI) and you have a recipe for success.
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Post by thegoat on Dec 27, 2021 19:51:07 GMT
Yuck, I don't see that taking off. When it performs poorly, I hope it doesn't make GW reconsider The Old World.
Why not? The most common complaint of 30K is how inaccessible the game is to the average player. Both previous 30K boxes sold like crazy. Add in that the box apparently contains one of if not THE most popular Power Armor Marks(MkVI) and you have a recipe for success.
It is all but exclusively marines vs marines. Which is the main complaint of 40k constantly becoming more and more marine centric. IDK maybe I'm the only one burned out with too many Marines and it will be popular. |
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Post by Golgfag on Dec 27, 2021 20:13:29 GMT
Why not? The most common complaint of 30K is how inaccessible the game is to the average player. Both previous 30K boxes sold like crazy. Add in that the box apparently contains one of if not THE most popular Power Armor Marks(MkVI) and you have a recipe for success.
It is all but exclusively marines vs marines. Which is the main complaint of 40k constantly becoming more and more marine centric. IDK maybe I'm the only one burned out with too many Marines and it will be popular. My most regular opponent has an Ork army and like me stopped playing 40k in early 8th edition when we realised what the game was now, I plan to play against him using HH marines as I am sure someone will make fan rules for them if GW still exclude them from 30k for no reason. I hope they do official rules for Orks plus the two Eldar armies too and expand it more in to 30K then just Horus Heresy. |
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Dec 28, 2021 3:26:02 GMT
Most 7th Ed Codexes play just fine in the current HH rules, more so than in the broken nigh unplayable mess that was 7th Ed since HH fixes so many of the issues that ruined 7th.
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Dec 28, 2021 3:27:42 GMT
Why not? The most common complaint of 30K is how inaccessible the game is to the average player. Both previous 30K boxes sold like crazy. Add in that the box apparently contains one of if not THE most popular Power Armor Marks(MkVI) and you have a recipe for success.
It is all but exclusively marines vs marines. Which is the main complaint of 40k constantly becoming more and more marine centric. IDK maybe I'm the only one burned out with too many Marines and it will be popular. Main complaint of 40K these days is the lethality of the system followed by how broken Dark Eldar, Ad Mech, and Orks are. Marine complaints are purely about how many releases they get in comparison to other factions, which considering Marines outsold the entirety of the WFB catalogue, I'd be releasing tons of them if I was GW, too. |
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Post by thegoat on Dec 28, 2021 3:49:40 GMT
It is all but exclusively marines vs marines. Which is the main complaint of 40k constantly becoming more and more marine centric. IDK maybe I'm the only one burned out with too many Marines and it will be popular. Main complaint of 40K these days is the lethality of the system followed by how broken Dark Eldar, Ad Mech, and Orks are. Marine complaints are purely about how many releases they get in comparison to other factions, which considering Marines outsold the entirety of the WFB catalogue, I'd be releasing tons of them if I was GW, too. Yea, I'm bitter that GW will release fifteen Marine books before they get around to updating Imperial Guard (my current faction) and they still wont be competitive or fun to play like they used to be. I totally get that Marines pay the bills though. |
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Post by KevinC on Dec 28, 2021 4:40:46 GMT
Yeah, I don't know what the figures are but Space Marines are said to have always sound like hot cakes for GW.
HH rules are basically 7th edition 40K rules right? (Basically the older system, not the new system).
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Dec 28, 2021 14:40:34 GMT
Yeah, I don't know what the figures are but Space Marines are said to have always sound like hot cakes for GW. HH rules are basically 7th edition 40K rules right? (Basically the older system, not the new system).
Yeah, they're 7th based but with a lot of alterations that help make it way more balanced than actual 7th. Player attitude helps, too. Most HH players I've met are more like us where they're more interest in the fluff and spectacle. Most(if not all) big events are Narrative weekends and the average game size tends towards 3000 points because it not just lets them bring Primarchs, but because lots of people actually bring 20 model units of base troops. Marine hordes are a thing in HH.
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Post by KevinC on Dec 28, 2021 14:56:37 GMT
Yeah, I don't know what the figures are but Space Marines are said to have always sound like hot cakes for GW. HH rules are basically 7th edition 40K rules right? (Basically the older system, not the new system).
Yeah, they're 7th based but with a lot of alterations that help make it way more balanced than actual 7th. Player attitude helps, too. Most HH players I've met are more like us where they're more interest in the fluff and spectacle. Most(if not all) big events are Narrative weekends and the average game size tends towards 3000 points because it not just lets them bring Primarchs, but because lots of people actually bring 20 model units of base troops. Marine hordes are a thing in HH.
---------The game sounds interesting. Thanks for the info. |
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Post by sedge on Feb 18, 2022 15:11:43 GMT
Cathay is coming: www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/18/grand-cathay-is-mapped-for-the-first-time-in-warhammer-the-old-world/It’s taken more than three decades, but light is finally being shed on the mysterious eastern realm of Cathay. Though this nation’s first full appearance in the world of Warhammer can be seen in the just-released Total War: Warhammer III, Cathay will also be coming to the tabletop in the upcoming Warhammer: The Old World. And now, there’s a map. Here’s the Old World supremo Andy Hoare to explain. Andy: Welcome to a very special reveal for Warhammer: The Old World! This time we’re taking a look at a region that has remained a big blank void ever since the very first maps of the world of Warhammer – the great empire that is Grand Cathay.  Some of the fantastical concept art produced by the Old World design team Cathay is really nicely fleshed-out in the upcoming Total War: Warhammer III, but this wasn’t always the case. Below is the first ever map of the known world, published in the second edition of the game all the way back in the mid 80s. As you can see, none of the now-familiar nations had much detail.  Most would go on to become highly detailed parts of the setting with rich histories and in-depth descriptions, but Cathay went almost entirely unexplored for all that time – beyond some tantalising tidbits in the Ogre Kingdoms army books. Until now. Grand Cathay is such a vast land that we have decided to focus – for now – on its north-western regions. So behold them, in all their glory! The Warhammer: The Old World team has been busy developing this area as part of our support for the guys at Creative Assembly for some time, so that games of Total War: Warhammer III set in this region feel every bit as rich and characterful as games set anywhere else in the world.  Cathay has been ruled by a race of immortal shape-shifting dragons for thousands of years, and it’s not a place that changes much, so this map is just as valid for the era in which Total War: Warhammer III is set as it is during the earlier period that will be explored by Warhammer: The Old World. Rest assured, scholars of Warhammer, this map works in both settings, so get studying! We’ll reveal more of Grand Cathay and the fascinating peoples that call it home in future articles – as well as closer looks at other areas of this incredible setting. Thanks Andy – it’s amazing to finally see what Cathay looks like after all these years. We now turn to Owen Barnes, who can explain more about the Empire in the East.    Owen: Far beyond the Old World, across the Worlds Edge Mountains, the Dark Lands beyond them, and even the Mountains of Mourn, stretches the vast empire of Grand Cathay. A sprawling land of mist-shrouded mountains, endless forests, mighty rivers and magnificent cities, this is the largest realm of men in the known world. The first taste of this empire encountered by travellers (or invaders) from the west and north are the lands ruled over by the Storm Dragon Miao Ying and the Iron Dragon Zhao Ming – children of the Celestial Dragon Emperor Xen Yang. Miao Ying defends the Great Bastion to the north, a towering wall that stretches for hundreds of miles across Grand Cathay’s northern border, from the ever-present forces of Chaos and the Hobgoblin Khanates. It is said the strength of the Storm Dragon and her innumerable armies have never faltered in their protection of the empire, thanks to the discipline of Cathay’s soldiers and the wondrous weapons produced by the artificers of Nan Gau. In the west, Zhao Ming rules the lucrative trade city of Sang Yang, guarding the Ivory Road from the rest of the Old World. However, there’s more than the high walls of Sang Yang and the Iron Dragon’s mercenary armies keeping western Cathay safe. Stretching beyond the gates of his city is the Warpstone Desert, a cursed land forever tainted by the impact of the ancient meteor that created the Great Maw, which makes for a formidable barrier to any who would dare strike at Grand Cathay from the west. Thanks Owen! There will be a lot more to come from Grand Cathay and The Old World in due course – and you’ll hear about it all here first. Why not sign up to the newsletter to get the news delivered direct to your inbox? |
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