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Feedback on High elves 1000 pts. army Jun 9, 2022 20:21:02 GMT knoffles likes this

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Post by sion997 on Jun 9, 2022 20:21:02 GMT

Hi,

I´m a returning player from 6th edition.

At my local game store, I´m going to participate in a friendly 1000 pts. tournament 8th edition version 1.8 (Lords < 25 % and Heroes < 25 %).

In the tournament no magic items are allow.

I have just learned the rules for 8th edition and I’m looking for some feedback on my 1000 pts. High elf list.

I´m considering the following:

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Lords:

Loremaster of Hoeth – 230 pts.

Core:

14x Archers full command – 170 pts. (loremaster go in here)

5x Ellyrian Reavers (Spear) – 80 pts.

Special:

16x Phoenix Guards, Standard Bearer – 250 pts.

10x Sword Masters of Hoeth, Standard Bearer and Musician – 150 pts.

Rare:

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower – 70 pts.

Great Eagle – 50 pts.

Total: 1000 pts.

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I got this for consideration:

- Instead of Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower take another Great Eagle – then use the rest of the points on the special slot – then perhaps also switch the Ellyrian Reavers out for more archers.

- Instead of Sword Masters (150 pts.) use White Lions (150 pts.) – but are they a good enough hammer-unit?

- Instead of one Sword Masters of Hoeth-unit use 2x 5 Sword Masters with standard bearer (2x 75 pts. = 150 pts.) – but are multi small units (MSU) good in 8th edition low points?

- Instead of Loremaster of Hoeth use an archmage? But I like the loremaster for his toolbox spell selection. In that chase what lore should I use for the archmage?

Sincerely,

Sion997

Last Edit: Jun 9, 2022 20:25:43 GMT by sion997

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Feedback on High elves 1000 pts. army Jun 10, 2022 18:37:00 GMT via Tapatalk knoffles and sion997 like this

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Post by strutsagget on Jun 10, 2022 18:37:00 GMT

Hello, fun restrictions. Personally I would choose between either combat oriented and go for 2+/6++ mounted characters(nobles) or shooty with magic support.

This would play sit back and shoot and then sweep in with princes on the left over weakened units. Loremaster would have a place in archers 8x3 and is mostly not for combat as he will die in a breeze when you can’t kit him. But his spells would be awesome in a no scroll environment. Fireball, wyssans wild form and spirit leach are always good.

Shooty
High Elves

Loremaster 230

Noble: lance; heavy armour; shield; Battle Standard; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding) 122

23 Archers: musician 240

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor: musician; standard bearer 165

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower: 2 × Sea Guard Crew 70

Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower: 2 × Sea Guard Crew 70

Great Eagle 50

Great Eagle 50

997 points

This would play more aggressively and direct with combat oriented.

Combat
High Elves

Noble: lance; Dragon armour; shield; Battle Standard; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding) 128

Noble: lance; Dragon armour; shield; Elven Steed (Ithilmar barding) 103

13 Silver Helms: High Helm; musician; standard bearer; shields 329

Lion Chariot of Chrace 120

15 White Lions of Chrace: musician; standard bearer 215

Great Eagle 50

Great Eagle 50

995 points

I am not saying these lists are perfect but I do think you need to focus in lower point and not try to do everything. Not fond of running single bolt thrower so I would either run 2 or 3 or none.

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Feedback on High elves 1000 pts. army Jun 12, 2022 13:34:44 GMT strutsagget, lordofskullpass, and 1 more like this

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Post by KevinC on Jun 12, 2022 13:34:44 GMT

sion997

I really like your list as is. Especially for 1,000 points - you have a bit of everything that will allow flexibility against various armies (i.e. a magic user, a war machine, a flyer, a unit o fast cav, archers, shock troops, etc.).

MSU can work in 8th, but you have to use the carefully. Elves are probably the best at it with ASF. Your unit of 10 Swordmasters are a powerful unit, though vulnerable, you want to get them on a flank or rear and only in the front of a enemy unit if they can destroy in a turn. Remember, probably the most significant change from 6/7 to 8E is supporting attacks from the second rank and that fact that the first rank always attacks as long at there are models there. So your Swordmasters cannot charge in and wipe out the first rank (thus eliminating attacks back). Instead, unless the unit is really decimated, the front rank plus supporting attacks in the second rank are coming back at you. This rule makes WFB 8E extremely bloody.

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Feedback on High elves 1000 pts. army Jun 13, 2022 14:00:28 GMT KevinC and strutsagget like this

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Post by sion997 on Jun 13, 2022 14:00:28 GMT

Thank you so much for both of yours feedback!

I think, I might be in favour of a more balanced list this time around. MSU in 8th edition is probably a too advanced strategy for a beginner like me.

But I will definitely take the shooty-list for a spin some day