WARHAMMER: BEASTMEN (8th Edition) V1.0
Aug 11, 2022 9:13:31 GMT
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Post by lordofskullpass on Aug 11, 2022 9:13:31 GMT
Calling all Beastman players! knoffles grandmasterwang markdienekes chaosreigns pinge KevinC mrbaldrick mottdon beastyboy mithras boda317 chronicallychaotic66 kaltheras sedge thegoat northbuying oldmandan thekeep
Yes folks...
This is the big one...
It's finally here!
My first version of my 8th Edition Beastmen army book is ready!
What you will find:
Why should you choose this book over Matthias Eliasson's?
The lordofskullpass promise:
Unlike GW, who have often been seen as 'a model company that makes games', I wish to make the balancing of my book a top priority - I'd like to think I've kept all the mechanics suitably balanced, but if you think that a unit or item has been too heavily undercosted, or a rule has become too powerful, then don't hesitate to let me know on this thread, because I will make it a prerogative to look into it and work out how it can be toned down a bit. Similarly if you find something to be too underpowered, I will certainly give consideration to how it can be improved without making it too strong! Also post any questions you have here, and I will be happy to answer them.
Over to you!
While I have had great fun writing and tinkering with this book, it will be nothing without adequate playtesting, which is why I have posted it here and summoned you to the Herdstone! It would be great if you could have a go at using my book in friendly games with mates, if they're open to playing with and against fan-made rulesets, and see how the book plays on the tabletop opposite the other 8th Edition books. In particular, posting battle reports using this new book will be an excellent way for everyone to see how the list fares, and posting feedback at the end will give me the greatest insight on whether there's anything that should be tweaked, and how.
Where's the book then?
It can be viewed on Google Drive here: drive.google.com/file/d/12t8Lwl6BKYCJAY-C5TWutH_HEBIhl-ra/view?usp=sharing
And without further ado, I hope you thoroughly enjoy reading this Book of Bestial Malevolence, and unleashing the horrors within its pages to bring ruin to the civilised races! Sound the Brayhorns!
Yes folks...
This is the big one...
It's finally here!
My first version of my 8th Edition Beastmen army book is ready!
What you will find:
- An expanded collection of lore for the True Children of Chaos, including lore sections I have written myself!
- For the first time, a detailed timeline of events for the Beastmen (I mean if Orcs and Goblins can have a detailed timeline, why not us?), from their creation during the fall of the Northern Polar Gates to the escalation of the ongoing war between Khazrak the One-Eye and Boris Todbringer
- An expanded army list that focuses on developing and diversifying the Gor part of the Beastman faction - the 7th Edition book did a decent job of expanding the monster side of the force, so it's only natural that my 8th Edition book does something to turn the tables.
- An effort to fix the issues created by the 7th Edition book - I agree with KevinC and some others on here and elsewhere that the 7th Edition book put the Beastman army in a funny place that caused it to often be referred to as 'Warriors of Chaos lite' or 'Chaos Orcs and Goblins', without the all-conquering combat prowess of the Chaos Warriors or the cheapness and expendability of Greenskin units. I was inspired to write this book by KevinC 's 8th Edition errata for the 6th Edition book in an effort to get away from this, and my 8th Edition army book builds upon this foundation to develop it into a force with a far more unique playstyle, relying upon cunning, controlling the Movement and Magic phases, and a fair amount of luck (as any balanced Warhammer army should )
Why should you choose this book over Matthias Eliasson's?
- I feel Matthias' Beastman book didn't really solve the issues the army had, as he largely clung too rigidly to the mechanics of the 7th Edition book and did little to fix the real weaknesses of that book (the Lore of the Wild, the loss of the Raiders rule, Marks were limited to Bestigors, not enough points reductions), and the additions he included just didn't contribute much to the army. I hope to amend that with my ruleset.
- Matthias no longer seems to care about 8th Edition and has since gone on to abandon it in favour a 9th Edition of his own, like T9A before him. True, his 9th Edition currently still bears a lot of similarity to 8th, but for how much longer? My book, on the other hand, will always be intended for 8th Edition Warhammer Fantasy as GW had written it. At one point I had considered writing my own 9th Edition, but that project has been shelved in favour of making 8th Edition army books for those who don't have them, and is unlikely to re-emerge given TOW is coming anyway.
- If you bothered to read some of the lore passages in his book, you'll notice that he seemed to copy-paste every bit of lore he could find, from every source he could find, so that you can often see unit bestiary text and lore text repeating itself - while perhaps only a minor niggle in the eyes of many, to a perfectionist like myself this sort of thing is really irritating and shows a little lack of care. My book, on the other hand, has benefitted from my perfectionistic gaze and I have made sure to avoid doing such a thing.
- Inconsistency of formatting - another minor cosmetic issue is that the images he uses are of all different sizes, a stark contrast to GW's works where all pictures were kept to one of several fixed sizes, plus the size of his text is inconsistent - some pages have smaller text in order to shove as much of GW's lore into bestiary entries as possible! I have made sure to keep to consistent text and image sizes throughout.
- Connected to my first point, I really believe my book will be much more fun and engaging for Beastmen players to play with - it relies upon using manoeuvrability, unpredictability and tactical finesse to overcome foes that may appear insurmountable, and the tools I have given you to achieve this really give you a feeling of hidden power, just like a Beastlord at the head of a mighty Brayherd!
The lordofskullpass promise:
Unlike GW, who have often been seen as 'a model company that makes games', I wish to make the balancing of my book a top priority - I'd like to think I've kept all the mechanics suitably balanced, but if you think that a unit or item has been too heavily undercosted, or a rule has become too powerful, then don't hesitate to let me know on this thread, because I will make it a prerogative to look into it and work out how it can be toned down a bit. Similarly if you find something to be too underpowered, I will certainly give consideration to how it can be improved without making it too strong! Also post any questions you have here, and I will be happy to answer them.
Over to you!
While I have had great fun writing and tinkering with this book, it will be nothing without adequate playtesting, which is why I have posted it here and summoned you to the Herdstone! It would be great if you could have a go at using my book in friendly games with mates, if they're open to playing with and against fan-made rulesets, and see how the book plays on the tabletop opposite the other 8th Edition books. In particular, posting battle reports using this new book will be an excellent way for everyone to see how the list fares, and posting feedback at the end will give me the greatest insight on whether there's anything that should be tweaked, and how.
Where's the book then?
It can be viewed on Google Drive here: drive.google.com/file/d/12t8Lwl6BKYCJAY-C5TWutH_HEBIhl-ra/view?usp=sharing
And without further ado, I hope you thoroughly enjoy reading this Book of Bestial Malevolence, and unleashing the horrors within its pages to bring ruin to the civilised races! Sound the Brayhorns!