Is anyone else surprised at how quickly 8th edition was abandoned by most players? There's a healthy amount of hate for AOS, but playing 8th doesn't seem like an option for most. It's a pretty nice mess right now.
Current WH community:
AOS 8th edition Ninth Age KoW Bros who just stopped playing fantasy combat games
I don't know what the breakdown is in terms of numbers but it's not good for anyone.
Post by TheREALricksalamone on Sept 20, 2015 14:42:03 GMT
Nothing against the 9th crowd, they've worked hard, but they took people away from Warhammer Fantasy.
It's like a huge war just ended and all of the countries are vying for control of the same territory. Except there are too many vyers and the residents of the country are just pissed off over the whole thing.
I hate to have a negative perspective, but certainly doesn't look good for 8th. It will survive but I'm not so sure about it thriving. It seems 8th is now in the category of most past WH editions. There will always be fans of those editions, but the vast majority of players completely move on when a game lacks official support.
Yes, it's unfortunate. I'm convinced playing 8th as is, is the best way to go about it. For example, if I meet a player in a different city I happen to be visiting, it's much easier to say: 'hey do you want to play a game of WFB 8th edition?' That player either knows 8th edition or doesn't. Engaging in 'I have this huge errata for playing 8.5 or 9th edition' causes confusion.
If someone asked me about playing a 9th edition game for example, my reaction would be to try and get them to play a 'standard' game of 8th instead. It would be a negotiation.
Official rules are the common ground. As much as I love making my own rules and playing with 'house rules,' playing pure 8th is how you play and engage with someone you don't know.
Only time will tell. Everything I see online points towards players adopting AOS or completely leaving GW fantasy related gaming. 8th edition seems forgotten.
A lot of this will probably depend on the direction competitive play takes in the next year. I can really see AOS pick up steam if the next few factions released can capture the imagination better than the sigmar marines. Despite the idiotic decision to leave out an army building mechanic, AOS does have some positives.
I might be sounding like a heretic but I do think the overall game mechanics of AOS is interesting, it could never replace WFB for me, but I'm certainly willing to play where people are interested. It just I have no idea what a fair game is.
I'm interested to see new models other than Stormcast Eternals and Khorne stuff.
The new models will be the key to its success or failure.
I have to admit that there are parts of it that intrigue me as well. Some of the synergies between units seems fairly cool. I also appreciate the idea of a quicker, fast paced game. Round bases make my heart hurt though. I also hate how much some of the classic WH races will most likely change. It's obvious looking through the app that many war scrolls are temporary place holders until everything can be updated.
buuuuuut, I'm done with current GW unless we see a big change. This was the nail in my coffin.
Since I live in the heartland of 9th Age I will probably be in touch with it one way or another. If the ETC captains vote to play it next year it will also get played regularly in tournaments around here and that means people will want to play it at the club. I'm still considering submitting an application for the design team to write the O&G book for 9th as that would be a way to both contribute and influence. On the other hand I suspect my family will not be moving on from 8th. Hopefully I'm not too old to keep two similar rulesets in my head at once.
I've played some AoS with my son using the Clash of Swords army building rules. It's not a bad game in itself but it isn't Warhammer. I'm going to a one day tourney at the club this Saturday to give it a proper go but it's never going to be my main game.
I was in our local GW over this weekend picking up a few paints, and overheard the GW sales rep ringing up a kid (who was new to the game). As the cash register started adding up the outrageous prices, the kid's face kept falling and getting more and more paler. When he reached the total (somewhere around $200), the kid reluctantly held out his debit card and low and behold, it was denied for insufficient funds. He wound up having to take half of the stuff he wanted off and putting it back on the shelf. I kept thinking, THIS is who GW is catering their entire business scheme to, instead of someone like me, who can easily drop twice that each month (and frequently did - until AoS)?!?
Well, it appears there weren't enough of us big spenders to keep 8th afloat or they wouldn't have dropped it in the first place. Seems like getting a few $100 out of thousands of kids is better business. Besides, I'm still buying the models so they've only lost book sales on me so far.
I was in our local GW over this weekend picking up a few paints, and overheard the GW sales rep ringing up a kid (who was new to the game). As the cash register started adding up the outrageous prices, the kid's face kept falling and getting more and more paler. When he reached the total (somewhere around $200), the kid reluctantly held out his debit card and low and behold, it was denied for insufficient funds. He wound up having to take half of the stuff he wanted off and putting it back on the shelf.