Post by mightym00se on Jul 12, 2015 8:24:57 GMT
My player group and i are taking an approach on bretonnia that is initially retrofitting. Rather than needing a ground up re-write... we beleive that we can add to the old book and make it fresh and vibrant.
www.dropbox.com/s/fz7426w0ykfvj8t/WFB%20Bretonnia%208th%20edition%20%280.3a%29.pdf?dl=0
This is the current FAQ style update. Cut/paste and loose leaf sheets will be made up and look decently pretty when i get to that stage.
Our mandates and addressing some design concepts.
1) They must not become OP.
2) they must remain true to post anthony reynolds fluff. So a lot of our inspiration moving forward is coming from Black library/FFG Knights of the grail. The 6th ed army book and the companion book series by Anthony Reynolds (Spiritual liege of bretonnia)
3) "Bloody peasants!" "OOOH you seeing this, the violence inherent in the system" - There must be the strict dichotomy of Knight/Peasant.
4) Any unit additions must be playtested... alot. As it is we are not moving on from phase 1 of our plan until we have had the current new stuff put up against one of every army (my group are a combination of hard core tourney and fluff players... and every army is represented in great number). They must adhere to rules number 1-3 before they are considered. And have a guide on how to convert or the ability for them to be made easily.
Work In progress
Changes:- (New in Red, Undergoing testing in green, proposed in blue, implemented in black)
Lance formation:- Enemy unit counts as disrupted on charge.
Questing knight
Attention of the lady:- Re-rolls to hit monster/monstrous.
Questing Sword:- Sword can be used as hand weapon/great sword. Chosen at start of combat as usual
Grail knight
Virtuous Combat:- The knight gains piercing. Furthermore army's of destruction suffer -1 to hit the grail knight.
Peasant Bowman, Defensive Stakes.
"Additionally, mounts may not attack as it is assumed that they cannot get past the stakes.”"
Royal Pegasus, Special rules.
Pegasus Mastery.
Lord/Hero may join a unit of Pegasus knights.
Men at arms.
Change “Points/Model: 5” to “Points/Model: 4”
Remove “Pole arm”.
Options.
Add “Any unit may replace their hand weapon with a polearm (+1pt/model)”
Page 69 – Peasant Bowmen, Options.
Add “Any unit my take hunting dogs 15pts.”
Add “Special rules:- Hunting Dogs.”
Page 71 – Special Units.
Add Unit Profile “0-2 Peasant Arbalest”.
M WS BS S T W I A LD
Peasant Arbalest 4 2 3 3 3 1 3 1 5
Villein 4 2 4 3 3 1 3 1 5
Points 7pt/Model
Equipment: Arbalest Crossbow, pavise
Unit Size: 5-20
Options:
Any unit may be equipped with light armour (+1pt/model).
Any unit may be equipped with a villain for +5 Pts.
Any Unit may be equipped with a standard for +10pts.
Special Rules
Peasants Duty.
Page 71 – Special Units, Pegasus Knights.
Change Unit Profile for knight and Gallant to “W = 3”.
Page 72 – Rare, Grail Knights.
Add “Special Rules:- Virtuous Combat”
Nuked this topic back to almost empty so i can lay it out a bit better.
Updates will be in the PDF. that makes it a skillful game vs insta win deathstar bs
www.dropbox.com/s/fz7426w0ykfvj8t/WFB%20Bretonnia%208th%20edition%20%280.3a%29.pdf?dl=0
This is the current FAQ style update. Cut/paste and loose leaf sheets will be made up and look decently pretty when i get to that stage.
Our mandates and addressing some design concepts.
1) They must not become OP.
2) they must remain true to post anthony reynolds fluff. So a lot of our inspiration moving forward is coming from Black library/FFG Knights of the grail. The 6th ed army book and the companion book series by Anthony Reynolds (Spiritual liege of bretonnia)
3) "Bloody peasants!" "OOOH you seeing this, the violence inherent in the system" - There must be the strict dichotomy of Knight/Peasant.
4) Any unit additions must be playtested... alot. As it is we are not moving on from phase 1 of our plan until we have had the current new stuff put up against one of every army (my group are a combination of hard core tourney and fluff players... and every army is represented in great number). They must adhere to rules number 1-3 before they are considered. And have a guide on how to convert or the ability for them to be made easily.
Work In progress
Changes:- (New in Red, Undergoing testing in green, proposed in blue, implemented in black)
Lance formation:- Enemy unit counts as disrupted on charge.
Questing knight
Attention of the lady:- Re-rolls to hit monster/monstrous.
Questing Sword:- Sword can be used as hand weapon/great sword. Chosen at start of combat as usual
Grail knight
Virtuous Combat:- The knight gains piercing. Furthermore army's of destruction suffer -1 to hit the grail knight.
Peasant Bowman, Defensive Stakes.
"Additionally, mounts may not attack as it is assumed that they cannot get past the stakes.”"
Royal Pegasus, Special rules.
Pegasus Mastery.
Lord/Hero may join a unit of Pegasus knights.
Men at arms.
Change “Points/Model: 5” to “Points/Model: 4”
Remove “Pole arm”.
Options.
Add “Any unit may replace their hand weapon with a polearm (+1pt/model)”
Page 69 – Peasant Bowmen, Options.
Add “Any unit my take hunting dogs 15pts.”
Add “Special rules:- Hunting Dogs.”
Page 71 – Special Units.
Add Unit Profile “0-2 Peasant Arbalest”.
M WS BS S T W I A LD
Peasant Arbalest 4 2 3 3 3 1 3 1 5
Villein 4 2 4 3 3 1 3 1 5
Points 7pt/Model
Equipment: Arbalest Crossbow, pavise
Unit Size: 5-20
Options:
Any unit may be equipped with light armour (+1pt/model).
Any unit may be equipped with a villain for +5 Pts.
Any Unit may be equipped with a standard for +10pts.
Special Rules
Peasants Duty.
Page 71 – Special Units, Pegasus Knights.
Change Unit Profile for knight and Gallant to “W = 3”.
Page 72 – Rare, Grail Knights.
Add “Special Rules:- Virtuous Combat”
Nuked this topic back to almost empty so i can lay it out a bit better.
Updates will be in the PDF. that makes it a skillful game vs insta win deathstar bs
