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Post by thorpyuk on Jan 26, 2023 16:39:49 GMT
Hi all, I was just wondering what the standard size for a gaming table should be? I can't seem to find anything specific in the rulebook regarding it.
In addition, surely the wider the table, the greater advantage to ranged gamers? For EG, if I'm an Empire player and have a grand army with 6 great cannons in it, I'd be quite happy having a table deep enough for the full 60" distance between us, if you see what I mean?
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Post by rahotep75 on Jan 26, 2023 16:53:52 GMT
The sidebar under the blood and glory scenario indicates 6x4 as their typical table size. If you go with a larger table, they recommend keeping the proportions, but the important thing is that the starting distance between armies stay the same.
Another important thing to remember is that abundant terrain is an important factor in 8E games, and one that is often overlooked.
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Post by thegoat on Jan 26, 2023 17:28:55 GMT
6x4 feet is the standard size. If your armies are over 4000 points, you would probably want to increase the size to 8x4 or 10x4.
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Post by Darnok on Jan 26, 2023 19:41:49 GMT
6x4 has become the "standard", despite not being stated as such anywhere in the rules. In the end you can play on almost any shape or size of table as long as you and your pponent are happy with it. What is more important than table size is keeping to the distances stated for deployment zones, and that they are the correct distance to each other. Having said all that: since WHF puts some focus on movement and maneuvering, more room to do so is often a good thing. As a rule of thumb I would suggest:
- 3x3 is fine for small games of up to 500 points per side
- 4x4 for games up to 1000 points per side
- 6x4 for games up to 2000 points per side
- 8x4 for games up to 4000 points per side
For larger games you really want more room, unless you are going for "two crowds marching at each other and blasting stuff off the table" - nothing wrong with that, just a thing to keep in mind. And I would consider all of this guidelines, not strict rules.
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Post by wundapantz on Jan 26, 2023 21:13:06 GMT
Deeper deployment zones favours both ranged armies as you said, and good discipline armies, as you can have units march behind other units and not be concerned when those in front get blasted off the table or panic through your lines.
Bigger tables also show the importance for general and BSB bubbles to low discipline armies.
Likewise, smaller boards than suggested for the points can choke armies that use loads of hordes, or use MSU set ups.
They also favour combat armies, and blasty magic.
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Post by Luigino on Jan 27, 2023 19:13:09 GMT
Realistically, the answer is "whatever large table you can get hold of".
I have a 44" x 100" table. That is just under 4 feet wide and just over 8 feet long.
I absolutely love it. It's long enough that it let's you deploy without having to worry about lack of space, but it's narrow enough that it won't let you just sit back and shoot everything to pieces.
As someone else mentioned, I always maintain a minimum of 24" of no mans land between armies, which in my case it turns each player deploying zone about 10".
I like odd sized (and shaped!) tables as it adds an element of tactic to games that you wouldn't find otherwise.
Also yes, plentiful terrain is definitely a must
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Post by thorpyuk on Jan 27, 2023 20:11:17 GMT
Thanks all, interesting replies. Sounds like 4' is about right in terms of width. My dining room table is pretty much 100cm, which works out about 7" shy of 4', and does feel just slightly pinched.
I'll have a think..
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Post by Luigino on Jan 27, 2023 21:17:32 GMT
Thanks all, interesting replies. Sounds like 4' is about right in terms of width. My dining room table is pretty much 100cm, which works out about 7" shy of 4', and does feel just slightly pinched. I'll have a think.. Honestly, do not let a literal dick sized portion of table stop you from playing. Just make sure you leave two feet of space between armies. It'll make very little difference, Keep in mind that it just means you have 3.5" less per side, and unless you always have all of your units always fielded against the table's edge you probably won't even notice. |
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Post by wundapantz on Jan 28, 2023 8:59:50 GMT
It often doesn't make a difference but it can Depend on your army make up though.
Long buses and Bretonnians get hampered by shorter deployment zones (gotta pay for those musicians!) Especially if you are playing at dawn attack scenario and may not have full control of where they go.
Or you can just house rule that the last rank of models that are hanging off the end at still there, as long as it's fudging the rules and not breaking the game...
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Post by vulcan on Jan 28, 2023 16:05:40 GMT
Or you can just house rule that the last rank of models that are hanging off the end at still there, as long as it's fudging the rules and not breaking the game... Movement trays can be your best friend, there.  |
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