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Post by quenelles84 on Jul 10, 2023 16:34:45 GMT
Hello,
Discussion with my gaming group on Skaven spell selection.
We understand that Grey Seers can swap out the spells they roll for Skitterleap or Dreaded 13th
& Warp Engineers can swap out for Warp Lightning ?
But does that mean multiple Seers/Engineers can have the same spell? (like a signature spell?)
Thanks
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Post by saniles on Jul 10, 2023 16:42:03 GMT
Yes. Multiple wizards can have the signature spell.  |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jul 10, 2023 16:51:25 GMT
saniles: The spells in question are not signature spells. However, as Skaven AB p. 78 specifies: "The differing types of Skaven Wizard can each substitute one of the spells they have rolled for a specific spell, as listed in each bestiary entry." Hence multiple Wizards can know that specific spell.
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Post by quenelles84 on Jul 10, 2023 18:04:22 GMT
Brilliant - I don’t think anyone had a copy of actual book hence the confusion
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Post by saniles on Jul 10, 2023 18:44:01 GMT
Fvon is usually the best with this, as you can see… I skimmed too much. But you know… same-same
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jul 10, 2023 21:10:19 GMT
Brilliant - I don’t think anyone had a copy of actual book hence the confusion Yes, I can see how not having access to the rules may be somewhat of an impediment to playing by the rules.... On a more general note: GW never came around to define Skaven spells (with the exception of magic missiles, which already existed). Hence, these are not subject to any BRB limitations regarding spell type. However, Skaven spells are still subject to the general targeting restrictions, unless (as always) specifically stated otherwise, to wit (BRB p. 31): - The target must lie within the Wizard's forward arc. - The Wizard does not need line of sight to his target. - The target must he within the spell's range. - Wizards cannot target spells at units engaged in close combat. |
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Post by IbnSeesAll on Jul 11, 2023 12:42:42 GMT
But can a Grey Seer still choose to substitute one spell for Skitterleap even he chooses to generate all of his spells from the Lore of Plague?
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Post by saniles on Jul 11, 2023 13:38:41 GMT
But can a Grey Seer still choose to substitute one spell for Skitterleap even he chooses to generate all of his spells from the Lore of Plague? Totally. Remember they can choose to mix and match, no reason you can’t do the mixing at the end with skitterleap… which btw, gives me some ideas I’d not considered before  |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jul 11, 2023 13:45:36 GMT
As it says in his bestiary description (Skaven AB p. 41): "A Grey Seer is a Level 4 Wizard and can use Skaven Spells of Ruin and Spells of Plague. A Grey Seer can freely mix spells from both Skaven spell disciplines, just be sure to announce which spell table is being used before rolling. The Grey Seer can substitute one spell for either Skitterleap or the Dreaded Thirteenth Spell."
Since it does not say "one spell of the relevant lore," he can indeed substitute a spell of Plague for Skitterleap.
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Post by IbnSeesAll on Jul 12, 2023 7:49:29 GMT
Thanks. Feels a bit sneaky to me, but I guess that is the Skaven way...
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Post by TyrrenAzureblade on Jul 17, 2023 20:10:30 GMT
Just a note for those wondering, via the FAQ (p5):
Q: Can a Grey Seer substitute two spells, one for Skitterleap and another for The Dreaded Thirteenth spell? (p41)
A: No
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Post by oldmandan on Jul 19, 2023 19:16:46 GMT
To be honest mixing spells from both lores is a risk. You reduce your chances of getting the spells you want or that best suit your needs.
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