Ironcurse Icon

Admittedly, the English version is unclear, because there is no definition of a "war machine weapon." However, wherever the English version has "war machine weapon" (including the Ironcurse Icon!), the French version just has "machines de guerre" (war machines), i.e. the troop type. 

I should think this Erratum clinches it, precisely because it drops the term "war machine weapon" (and machines de guerre in the French version) when addressing the difference between the weapons that have the troop type and weapons that fire like one (= "all weapons in this section"; French "toutes les armes décrites dans cette section"). 




Hence, the Ironcurse Icon would only come into effect against weapons with the war machine troop type. 

That said, we have the following Ogre Kingdoms FAQ (Official Update Version 1.1, p.2): 

Q: Do the Scraplauncher Catapult, Cannon of the Sky-titans and  Sphere of Frost-wreathed Ice have the Slow to Fire special rule? In  addition, can ward saves from the Ironcurse Icon be taken against
 Wounds caused by these weapons? (p49, 51, 55)
A: Yes to both questions.

These units do not have the war machine troop type, and one could take the FAQ as a precedent. However, as always, "unless specifically stated otherwise, normal rules apply." In the case of the Ogre units, it is specifically stated otherwise. Elsewhere, it is not. Note also that the wording for two of them is unusual. The Scraplauncher catapult special rule states that it "is a stone thrower," and the Sphere of Frost-wreathed Ice special rule that "it can make a stone thrower shooting attack."

Edit: rahotep75 beat me to my edit. The Tomb King FAQ has no relevance, because the Casket of Souls actually is a war machine, but the Light of Death spell is, well, a spell. 

I don't follow your logic.  The erratum change states "all weapons in this section".  The "weapons mounted on war machines" bit is part of a parenthetical clause that only applies to "all other weapons".

"all weapons in this section" includes Stone Throwers.  So my example above with the Hellcannon using the rules for a stone thrower, would qualify.

I have no idea what distinction you are trying to make nor why you think the French version is the definitive version of the rules.

I cannot disagree more.  The English version of the rules is the original and definitive version.  All other language versions are translations based on the English version.  The translators may or may not have accurately captured the original intention.  if there is any discrepancy between versions, the English version trumps all others.

As pointed out several times in the past, non-English language versions are sometimes more accurate than the English version. They can contain mistakes not in the English version, but also omit mistakes made in the English version, which indicates that they are not simple translations of the English BRB. To give three examples from the French version I have encountered so far:


To add another, more fundamental example where the French version is superior: the English version uses "wounds" ("wounded," "to suffer wounds", "wounds caused" or "wounds inflicted" etc.) for both wounds that can yet be saved and actual wounds, leading to all kinds of confusion. The French version makes a clear distinction between blessure (wound before saves) and Point de Vie perdu (Life Point lost, i.e. wound after saves), avoiding all the confusion of the English wording.

For WFB, there never was a general statement about the precedence of the English version over the foreign language versions. For tournaments, the TO decided, but, usually, that amounted to the precedence of the local language version (if there was one, and depending on how international they wanted to be).  

Edit: The German version also has just "Kriegsmaschinen" (war machines) here. Which, come to think of it, is ultimately also what the English versions says, since a "war machine weapon," is, if anything, "a weapon of a war machine" - and not of a chariot, monster or whatnot. 

Edit 2:  The Tomb Kings FAQ quoted above erroneously calls the item "Ironcurse Amulet" instead of "Ironcurse Icon." The French and German versions of the FAQ have the correct name. 

karnus : That is a bit harsh. By issuing the Ogre FAQ, GW itself opened the way to pose the question for other systems. The ETC FAQ (2015) allowed it (although some say they do not play Warhammer anyway...): 


while the Warhammer Austrian Championships FAQ (2011) forbade it:


but in 2012 and 2013, they switched to ETC. Many tournaments, provided they even have their own FAQ, simply do not address the question. And if it has ever been raised by the players during such a tournament, the result can only be an ad hoc decision by the TO.