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Post by gangland on Mar 3, 2019 16:19:16 GMT
Hello all, so here is my thinking for a 2k Skaven list I will be working toward getting built and painted. Let me know what you think and where I can spent the 9pts I have floating in the warp.
Lords [285pts]
Grey Seer [285pts]
Selections: Warpstone Tokens
Magic Items and Scavenge-pile items [45pts]
Selections: BRB - Talisman of Preservation [45pts]
Wizard Level 4
Selections: Skaven Spells of Ruin and/or Plague
Heroes [102pts]
Chieftain [102pts]
Selections: Battle Standard Bearer [25pts], Shield [2pts]
Magic Items and Scavenge-pile items [30pts]
Selections: AB - Warpstone Armour [30pts]
Core [810pts]
Clanrats [200pts]
Selections: Poisoned Wind Mortar [65pts]
30x Clanrats [135pts]
Selections: 30x Shields [15pts]
Clanrats [200pts]
Selections: Poisoned Wind Mortar [65pts]
30x Clanrats [135pts]
Selections: 30x Shields [15pts]
Clanrats [205pts]
Selections: Warpfire Thrower [70pts]
30x Clanrats [135pts]
Selections: 30x Shields [15pts]
Clanrats [205pts]
Selections: Warpfire Thrower [70pts]
30x Clanrats [135pts]
Selections: 30x Shields [15pts]
Special [379pts]
Rat Ogres [379pts]
Selections: Packmaster [8pts], Packmaster [8pts], Rat Ogres [40pts], Rat Ogres [40pts], Rat Ogres [40pts], Rat Ogres [40pts], Rat Ogres [40pts]
Packmaster [108pts]
Packmaster Skweel Gnawtooth [100pts]
Selections: AB - Warp-lash
Rat Ogres [55pts]
Selections: Champion [15pts]
Rare [415pts]
Hell Pit Abomination [235pts]
Warp Lightning Cannon [90pts]
Warp Lightning Cannon [90pts]
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Post by sedge on Mar 3, 2019 21:12:33 GMT
Four 30 rat Clanrat units seems an odd choice - is there a reason behind that? Clanrats don't really do much aside from pushing a Screaming Bell or tarpitting, and Slaves do the latter for cheaper (plus your warpfire throwers can target into combats with Slaves in there, which is great fun). You could also do with a Stormvermin or Plague Monk block that's actually capable of inflicting some wounds, as the Clanrats definitely aren't.
The Chieftan BSB is vital to keeping your blocks going, so could do with some more protection - either boost the armour save with something like the Enchanted Shield, or look for a ward save. Warpstone armour isn't great without a further boost to your save - you really want a 2+ to make decent use of it.
Also, everyone's favourite rat darts are useful chaff.
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Post by gangland on Mar 4, 2019 6:35:00 GMT
Four 30 rat Clanrat units seems an odd choice - is there a reason behind that?. Weapons team and annoyance heh. But yeah I suppose I could sub a few for stormvermin and or plague monks |
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Post by rahotep75 on Mar 7, 2019 0:47:11 GMT
sedge makes good points. The list really only has one legitimate threat, and that's Skweel's Rat Ogres. Your WFT are very dangerous, and I love them, along with the PWM (which I feel are our best weapon teams), but they are very vulnerable. Any army with even minimal shooting will likely kill two teams on their first turn and the other two on the second. They no longer get -1 to be shot at, and even their 4+ ward within 3" of their parent doesn't protect them much. Some chaff units, or slaves to give hard cover may help keep them alive to do damage, especially the WFT who suffer from Move or Fire. He mentioned the Warpstone Armor on the BSB...I would give him the Foul Pendant, if you really want to spend those 30 points on him. I run mine with the Dragonbane gem and a halberd, and he rarely dies, because I have so many units that can keep him out of the fight. One last thing to consider, that many people don't realize, or forget, since Skweel counts as a champion, he must be in the front rank. With Rat Ogres, since his base size doesn't mesh, that means he goes on the far right, or far left and may be more vulnerable to being singled out. He also technically doesn't get a look out sir. I know he's really only there to boost the Rat Ogres, so him dying afterwards doesn't matter, but just keep that in mind.
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Post by gangland on Mar 8, 2019 21:04:40 GMT
Good point on sleep, should I drop the ogres in favor of plague monks?
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Post by sedge on Mar 8, 2019 22:16:03 GMT
They're quite different roles - Plague Monks give you lots of low strength attacks, Rat Ogres are one of your few sources of higher strength attacks.
As a very rough suggestion of altering the list (but not too much) I'd suggest combining two Clanrat units into one massive block that can push the Bell. Change another of your Clanrat units to Slaves, drop the other, and see if you can fit some Stormvermin and/or Plague Monks in to give yourself another "damage dealer".
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Post by gangland on Mar 20, 2019 19:38:50 GMT
New list I just made to have fun and listen to suggestions:
Lords [240pts]
Grey Seer [240pts]
Selections: Warpstone Tokens (FAQ'ed)
Wizard Level 4
Selections: Skaven Spells of Ruin and/or Plague
Heroes [237pts]
Chieftain [104pts]
Selections: Battle Standard Bearer [25pts], Halberd [2pts], Enchanted Shield [5pts]
Magic Items and Scavenge-pile items [30pts]
Selections: AB - Warpstone Armour [30pts]
Warlock Engineer [65pts]
Selections: Ruin
Wizard Level 1 [50pts]
Selections: Skaven Spells of Ruin
Warlock Engineer [65pts]
Selections: Ruin
Wizard Level 1 [50pts]
Selections: Skaven Spells of Ruin
Core [659pts]
Skavenslaves [150pts]
60x Skavenslaves [150pts]
Selections: 60x Shields [30pts]
Skavenslaves [150pts]
60x Skavenslaves [150pts]
Selections: 60x Shields [30pts]
Stormvermin [359pts]
Selections: Champion [10pts], Musician [5pts], Standard Bearer [10pts], Warpfire Thrower [70pts]
33x Stormvermin [264pts]
Selections: 33x Shields [33pts]
Special [445pts]
Plague Monks [445pts]
Selections: Champion [10pts], Musician [5pts], 60x Plague Monks [420pts], Standard Bearer [10pts]
Rare [415pts]
Hell Pit Abomination [235pts]
Warp Lightning Cannon [90pts]
Warp Lightning Cannon [90pts]
Under by 2pts.
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