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Post by villimikko on Jan 5, 2022 6:52:33 GMT
We have been playing on 6 x 4 (180cm*120cm) for our 2400 points games. Now there is going to be 3k game and I feel that the table is too small for that.
How do you guys adapt size of the table to size of the game? Interested about sub 2k games too!
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Post by sirsteve on Jan 5, 2022 6:55:10 GMT
I have found above 2400 things can get crampt. The choice of army is also a thing as the highly mobile armies can struggle tactically.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Jan 5, 2022 7:29:12 GMT
I personally feel for 3k points 6×4 is ideal. Imo the limited space provides an interesting extra thrip to deal with as placement becomes even more important. Sometimes I increase the deployment areas a bit depending on the armies. The 1 inch between units becomes 1cm.
Imo ideally 8 x 4 for 4k points.
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Post by saniles on Jan 5, 2022 10:20:27 GMT
I’ve recently done a few 3k-3.5k games on 6x4 with @coppermd, Yvain, and flammablehero. I didn’t think the size was too bad honestly and I was playing as Skaven. Space is definitely at a premium at those values and I did have to make some very deliberate decisions on unit placement. I haven’t don’t it yet, but at anything over 3.5k for sure, I’m either going to HAVE to put stuff in as reinforcements because I won’t have deployment room or we need to have a larger table for the games. |
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Post by dannytee on Jan 5, 2022 11:11:51 GMT
For 3,000 points my group stays on 6x4. We don’t often play 1v1 that is larger than that but I could see expanding by adding length to the end if you were above 3,000. Easy enough to do.
For our large multiplayer games we often use unusual sized tables. Mixes up the dynamic. And if the deployment zones get a lot of distance between them we add on some turns to the game beyond six.
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Post by villimikko on Jan 5, 2022 12:12:57 GMT
Thanks for the answers guys. What about smaller games 1200-1600 points. Do you still recommend 6 x 4 ?
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Post by saniles on Jan 5, 2022 12:17:14 GMT
I’ve done a 4x4ish for 500s. I don’t really measure it, I just roll up a portion of my mat until it looks right. 1200 points could be nothing, but depending on your opponent, it could still be lots of models. I’d say test it out, roll up a part of the mat if you and your opponent don’t like the size
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Post by thegoat on Jan 5, 2022 12:22:51 GMT
I've played many a 3,000-3,500 point game on a 6'x4' table. As others have mentioned above, the lack of space changes up the tactical emphasis of deployment and movement. But it works well.
8'x4' tables are so long they end up effecting different armies differently. The general and BSB cover a smaller fraction of the army. Races that rely on them for leadership are at a major disadvantage. Infantry heavy armies, ie. Dwarfs, have a hard time crossing the extra distance.
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Post by mottdon on Jan 6, 2022 13:04:36 GMT
Or another option would be to go 6x6 while maintaining the 24" set-up separation.. This isn't as popular because it involves attacking in waves, which can leave your second and third waves vulnerable to war machine fire, magic, etc. It also becomes difficult to reach the middle of the table, potentially knocking over models as you reach. It's still a possibility though.
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Post by Buxe on Jan 8, 2022 9:00:01 GMT
My group usually plays on 6x4' up 4000 points. Above that we usually put two tables together to 8x6' while having 18" deployment distance, and randomly determining the angle of no-man's-land by a scatter die.
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Post by Yvain on Jan 8, 2022 23:35:54 GMT
I’ve recently done a few 3k-3.5k games on 6x4 with @coppermd, Yvain , and flammablehero . I didn’t think the size was too bad honestly and I was playing as Skaven. Space is definitely at a premium at those values and I did have to make some very deliberate decisions on unit placement. I haven’t don’t it yet, but at anything over 3.5k for sure, I’m either going to HAVE to put stuff in as reinforcements because I won’t have deployment room or we need to have a larger table for the games.
I would say unit crowding is part of the game. We both had horde armies and could still without stacking our units behind each other.
A standard infantry block can only go 48 if it marches every turn. That is even less if you start wheeling though you do get a bit of a boost when you charge. If you make the table to large you are more likely to have unit that simply never get into combat. This benefits armies that can kite.
Just something to keep in mind.
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Post by thegoat on Jan 8, 2022 23:58:31 GMT
This benefits armies that can kite. Curious, what do you mean by "kite"? |
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Post by NIGHTBRINGER on Jan 9, 2022 0:01:52 GMT
I play exclusively 3000 point games and they are always played on 6x4 tables. I find there is plenty of room.
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Post by Yvain on Jan 9, 2022 23:37:28 GMT
This benefits armies that can kite. Curious, what do you mean by "kite"? Kite is a video game term. Basically it means staying outside your opponents range so they can't do anything.
I could imagine a highly mobile army denying someone points by just staying away or pulling a wood elves and simply backing up to keep sniping.
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Post by gangland on Jan 18, 2022 17:03:55 GMT
IMO under 1500pts should be a 4x4, and 1500-3k a 6x4. Above 3k I'd probably use a 4x8. I've played plenty of 3k games but nothing above that really so see others' advise on that.
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