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Post by sirsteve on Jul 7, 2022 19:36:18 GMT
Dusting off my ogres for my first game in a while. Here's my list. Any thoughts welcome... ++ Standard (Ogre Kindoms - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.1.) [1,197pts] +++ Uncategorised +- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points) + Lords +Tyrant [300pts]: Heavy Armour, Ironfist . Magic Items and Big Names: BRB - Fencer's Blades, BRB - Glittering Scales, BRB - Luckstone, BRB - The Other Trickster's Shard + Heroes +Bruiser [143pts]: Heavy Armour, Ironfist . Battle Standard Bearer: BRB - Gleaming Pennant Firebelly [157pts]: Additional Hand Weapon, Lore of Fire, Wizard Level 2 + Core +Ogres [318pts]: Bellower, Champion, Standard Bearer . 9x Ogres: 9x Ironfists + Special +Leadbelchers [149pts]: Bellower, Champion, 3x Leadbelchers Mournfang Cavalry [130pts]. 2x Ogre: 2x Heavy Armour ++ Total: [1,197pts] ++Created with BattleScribe |
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Post by jamesacon on Jul 8, 2022 1:48:44 GMT
Hi there! Glad to have another person playing 8th again  Here are my thoughts, do with them what you will haha. - I think you have gone too heavy into characters at such a small point game. I would drop the firebelly and tyrant for a slaughter master general. Ogre magic is great! You need spinemarrow! Ogres don't quite get the ranks to gain stubborn so that spell is a must! - if you are inclined to keep the characters then the crown of command is a must take on your tyrant. You need that stubborn! The last thing you want is to fail combat and get run down! That would be your whole block gone. And that's the best way to beat ogres. - watch out for OTS, your own models in base contact will have to re roll the ward save. And I would drop the champion from the leadbealcher unit for iron fist on the Mournfang to get a 2+ armour save. I have a few questions for you. - are you limited on models? - is this a casual game? - are you looking to win or have fun? For the great maw!! |
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Post by grandmasterwang on Jul 8, 2022 5:27:55 GMT
I'm not sure you can use the Iron Fist as well as Fencers Blades as the Fencers Blades are paired weapons and take up both hands of the Tyrant.
Battlescribe lets you do somethings the actual rulebooks do not.
I'm not 100% certain but RAI I'd say they cannot be taken together.
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Post by sirsteve on Jul 8, 2022 5:55:06 GMT
Thanks for the advice. The list is actually for a team game. I'm playing alongside dwarves and were playing Chaos (could be demons/chaos or pure demons). Here's an alternative based on feedback Not playing End Times btw + Lords +Slaughtermaster [288pts]: Ironfists, Lore of the Great Maw, Wizard Level 3 . Magic Items: BRB - Crown of Command + Heroes +Bruiser [143pts]: Heavy Armour, Ironfist . Battle Standard Bearer: BRB - Gleaming Pennant + Core +Ogres [414pts]: Bellower, Champion, Standard Bearer . 12x Ogres: 12x Ironfists + Special +Leadbelchers [149pts]: Bellower, Champion, 3x Leadbelchers Mournfang Cavalry [205pts]: Champion . 3x Ogre: 3x Heavy Armour ++ Total: [1,199pts] ++Created with BattleScribe |
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Post by sirsteve on Jul 8, 2022 6:36:00 GMT
Updated on commute. Add fencers blades to bruiser to counter possible demon prince ++ Standard (Ogre Kindoms - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.1.) [1,193pts] +++ Lords +Slaughtermaster [288pts]: Ironfists, Lore of the Great Maw, Wizard Level 3 . Magic Items: BRB - Crown of Command + Heroes +Bruiser [234pts]: A Brace of Ogre Pistols, Heavy Armour . Battle Standard Bearer: AB - Dragonhide Banner, Look-out Gnoblar . Magic Items and Big Names: BRB - Fencer's Blades + Core +Ogres [382pts]: Bellower, Champion, Standard Bearer . 11x Ogres: 11x Ironfists + Special +Leadbelchers [149pts]: Bellower, Champion, 3x Leadbelchers Mournfang Cavalry [140pts]: Champion . 2x Ogre: 2x Heavy Armour ++ Total: [1,193pts] ++Created with BattleScribe |
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Post by jamesacon on Jul 8, 2022 8:34:41 GMT
Looking much better!
Just a note on bruiser, I am pretty sure you can't take a magic banner and magic items. It's either one or the other. You can however take big names and magic banner.
I would still drop the champion from the leadbealcher unit, he does nothing for the unit, and your Mournfang need the iron fists to get to that important 2+ save!
Final suggestion is perhaps run iron guts instead of bulls. You have a lot of mid strength attacks from Mournfang and leadbealchers. Some heavy hitters might be better to compliment the list, which would open up a magic banner choice on your unit. And then you can equip your bruiser with magic items to help him out.
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Post by Buxe on Jul 8, 2022 12:53:24 GMT
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Post by sirsteve on Jul 8, 2022 16:10:33 GMT
Thanks for the advice. Is this what you mean? ++ Standard (Ogre Kindoms - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.1.) [1,199pts] +++ Uncategorised +- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points) + Lords +Slaughtermaster [293pts]: Ironfists, Lore of the Great Maw, Wizard Level 3 . Magic Items: BRB - Crown of Command, BRB - Luckstone + Heroes +Bruiser [193pts]: Heavy Armour, Ironfist . Battle Standard Bearer: Look-out Gnoblar . Magic Items and Big Names: BRB - Dragonhelm, BRB - Fencer's Blades, BRB - Pidgeon Plucker Pendant + Core +Ironguts [424pts]: 8x Ironguts . Bellower . Champion . Standard Bearer: AB - Dragonhide Banner + Special +Leadbelchers [149pts]: Bellower, Champion, 3x Leadbelchers Mournfang Cavalry [140pts]. 2x Ogre: 2x Heavy Armour, 2x Ironfists ++ Total: [1,199pts] ++Created with BattleScribe |
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Post by jamesacon on Jul 8, 2022 23:26:41 GMT
Looks a lot more well rounded! You have a solid core, some good shooting, a good anvil and mobility. My final suggestion would be to find the points to make your slaughter master a level 4. To improve your chances of getting trollguts! Perhaps if you drop champion and bellower from the leadbealcher unit, iron fist from bruiser since he has 2 hand weapons, and maybe the luckstone, pigeon pendant. But that's entirely up to you let us know how you go! |
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Post by sirsteve on Jul 9, 2022 7:38:21 GMT
Looks a lot more well rounded! You have a solid core, some good shooting, a good anvil and mobility. My final suggestion would be to find the points to make your slaughter master a level 4. To improve your chances of getting trollguts! Perhaps if you drop champion and bellower from the leadbealcher unit, iron fist from bruiser since he has 2 hand weapons, and maybe the luckstone, pigeon pendant. But that's entirely up to you let us know how you go! Thanks for the advice which has been taken. Game is later today so I'll report back this weekend. |
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Post by sirsteve on Jul 10, 2022 10:28:53 GMT
Well they had promise and I'll be using again but sadly my ability to double fail leadership tests was my downfall.
Thanks again for all the advice.
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Post by jamesacon on Jul 11, 2022 3:57:34 GMT
Well they had promise and I'll be using again but sadly my ability to double fail leadership tests was my downfall. Thanks again for all the advice. Oh that stings! Sorry to hear that. Perhaps standard of discipline might be better on the ironguts so your slaughter master is LD 9 |
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Post by sirsteve on Jul 11, 2022 5:51:36 GMT
Well they had promise and I'll be using again but sadly my ability to double fail leadership tests was my downfall. Thanks again for all the advice. Oh that stings! Sorry to hear that. Perhaps standard of discipline might be better on the ironguts so your slaughter master is LD 9 Rolled 10s 😂 |
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Post by grandmasterwang on Jul 15, 2022 9:55:16 GMT
Oh that stings! Sorry to hear that. Perhaps standard of discipline might be better on the ironguts so your slaughter master is LD 9 Rolled 10s 😂 😃 These things happen. The Great Maw was distracted that day. |
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