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slowdancer13
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High Elf 2500 Point List Oct 29, 2023 6:41:47 GMT via mobile

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Post by slowdancer13 on Oct 29, 2023 6:41:47 GMT

I’m just getting into playing 8th edition (although I have been collecting models for a while) and need some help! I’ve whipped up a list of High elves and need advice / critiques on it.

++ End Times (High Elves - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.0.) [2,466pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)

+ Lords +

Archmage [247pts]: Lore of Life, Wizard Level 4
. Ithilmar Barded Elven Steed

Prince [177pts]: Lance, Light Armour, Shield
. Ithilmar Barded Elven Steed

Tyrion [410pts]: AB - Dragon Armour of Aenarion, AB - Heart of Avalorn, AB - Sunfang

+ Heroes +

Mage [120pts]: Lore of Fire, Wizard Level 2

Noble [147pts]: Light Armour, Shield
. Battle Standard Bearer: AB - Banner of the World Dragon

+ Core +

Archers [160pts]: 15x Archer, Musician

Archers [160pts]: 15x Archer, Musician

Silver Helms [240pts]: Musician
. 10x Silver Helm: 10x Shields

Spearmen [200pts]: Champion, Musician, 20x Spearman

Spearmen [200pts]: Champion, Musician, 20x Spearman

+ Rare +

Sisters of Avelorn [140pts]: 10x Sister of Avelorn

+ Special +

Phoenix Guard [265pts]: 15x Phoenix Guard
. Champion
. Musician
. Standard Bearer: BRB - Banner of Eternal Flame

++ Total: [2,466pts] ++

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High Elf 2500 Point List Oct 30, 2023 23:45:56 GMT slowdancer13 likes this

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Post by TyrrenAzureblade on Oct 30, 2023 23:45:56 GMT

One thing I've had great success with is taking a unit of 30 archers, instead of two units of 15. It does minimize your flexibility, but I play with High Magic, and casting Hand of Glory on that one single unit makes it great at thinning down units of anything that's T3, or clearing chaff units more reliably. Usually my opponents are more worried about Fiery Convocation or Walk Between Worlds so they let it go undispelled. In a pinch, I've also been able to tie up much stronger units by reforming 30 archers into six ranks of five models to help them stay Steadfast. Their stats are still good against other basic infantry like Clanrats or Imperial State Troops.

With 30 archers, I think you could lose the Sisters, and beef up your Phoenix Guard unit. I always run 20 (I try to stay away from 30, or 40 or more so my opponent doesn't hate me. Trust me, 20 will have plenty of staying power if you deploy them and use them properly). I would also put the Razor Standard on them to make them better against armored units.

Same with your two units of Spearmen, I'd probably combine them to make a unit of 40. I usually run 30 with the Banner of Eternal Flame.

You may want to put your BSB on a barded mount, and embed them with your Silver Helms, which I assume are were your Archmage and Tyrion are going. You'll want to give them all the defense you can. I'd scrap the prince if you're going to run Tyrion, or vice versa. You can build a really well armored prince for cheaper, but I'm all for including characters in High Elves lists because nobody ever runs them because of their points costs. Either way, you probably don't need two fighty characters, the points you save by eliminating one could help you put a ward save on your wizard, and the Book of Hoeth, and maybe leave enough so you can reintroduce the Sisters.

Are these the only models available to you, or do you have other stuff like Ellyrian Reavers, Eagles, Swordmasters, White Lions, chariots, bolt throwers, etc.?

Maybe something like this:

++ End Times (High Elves - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.0.) [2,500pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)

+ Lords +

Archmage [347pts]: Lore of Life, Wizard Level 4

. Ithilmar Barded Elven Steed

. Magic Items: AB - Book of Hoeth, BRB - Talisman of Preservation

Tyrion [410pts]: AB - Dragon Armour of Aenarion, AB - Heart of Avalorn, AB - Sunfang

+ Heroes +

Noble [178pts]: Dragon Armour, Lance, Shield

. Battle Standard Bearer: AB - Banner of the World Dragon

. Ithilmar Barded Elven Steed

+ Core +

Archers [310pts]: 30x Archer, Musician

Ellyrian Reavers [80pts]

. 5x Ellyrian Reaver: 5x Spear (Mounted)

Silver Helms [260pts]: Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer

. 10x Silver Helm: 10x Shields

Spearmen [400pts]: 40x Spearman

. Champion

. Musician

. Standard Bearer: BRB - Banner of Eternal Flame

+ Rare +

Sisters of Avelorn [140pts]: 10x Sister of Avelorn

+ Special +

Phoenix Guard [375pts]: 20x Phoenix Guard

. Champion

. Musician

. Standard Bearer: BRB - Razor Standard

++ Total: [2,500pts] ++

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Last Edit: Oct 30, 2023 23:54:19 GMT by TyrrenAzureblade

slowdancer13
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High Elf 2500 Point List Oct 31, 2023 6:18:12 GMT via mobile

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Post by slowdancer13 on Oct 31, 2023 6:18:12 GMT

Oct 30, 2023 23:45:56 GMT TyrrenAzureblade said:

One thing I've had great success with is taking a unit of 30 archers, instead of two units of 15. It does minimize your flexibility, but I play with High Magic, and casting Hand of Glory on that one single unit makes it great at thinning down units of anything that's T3, or clearing chaff units more reliably. Usually my opponents are more worried about Fiery Convocation or Walk Between Worlds so they let it go undispelled. In a pinch, I've also been able to tie up much stronger units by reforming 30 archers into six ranks of five models to help them stay Steadfast. Their stats are still good against other basic infantry like Clanrats or Imperial State Troops.

With 30 archers, I think you could lose the Sisters, and beef up your Phoenix Guard unit. I always run 20 (I try to stay away from 30, or 40 or more so my opponent doesn't hate me. Trust me, 20 will have plenty of staying power if you deploy them and use them properly). I would also put the Razor Standard on them to make them better against armored units.

Same with your two units of Spearmen, I'd probably combine them to make a unit of 40. I usually run 30 with the Banner of Eternal Flame.

You may want to put your BSB on a barded mount, and embed them with your Silver Helms, which I assume are were your Archmage and Tyrion are going. You'll want to give them all the defense you can. I'd scrap the prince if you're going to run Tyrion, or vice versa. You can build a really well armored prince for cheaper, but I'm all for including characters in High Elves lists because nobody ever runs them because of their points costs. Either way, you probably don't need two fighty characters, the points you save by eliminating one could help you put a ward save on your wizard, and the Book of Hoeth, and maybe leave enough so you can reintroduce the Sisters.

Are these the only models available to you, or do you have other stuff like Ellyrian Reavers, Eagles, Swordmasters, White Lions, chariots, bolt throwers, etc.?

Maybe something like this:

++ End Times (High Elves - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.0.) [2,500pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)

+ Lords +

Archmage [347pts]: Lore of Life, Wizard Level 4

. Ithilmar Barded Elven Steed

. Magic Items: AB - Book of Hoeth, BRB - Talisman of Preservation

Tyrion [410pts]: AB - Dragon Armour of Aenarion, AB - Heart of Avalorn, AB - Sunfang

+ Heroes +

Noble [178pts]: Dragon Armour, Lance, Shield

. Battle Standard Bearer: AB - Banner of the World Dragon

. Ithilmar Barded Elven Steed

+ Core +

Archers [310pts]: 30x Archer, Musician

Ellyrian Reavers [80pts]

. 5x Ellyrian Reaver: 5x Spear (Mounted)

Silver Helms [260pts]: Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer

. 10x Silver Helm: 10x Shields

Spearmen [400pts]: 40x Spearman

. Champion

. Musician

. Standard Bearer: BRB - Banner of Eternal Flame

+ Rare +

Sisters of Avelorn [140pts]: 10x Sister of Avelorn

+ Special +

Phoenix Guard [375pts]: 20x Phoenix Guard

. Champion

. Musician

. Standard Bearer: BRB - Razor Standard

++ Total: [2,500pts] ++

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Hey great advice! And yeah I have other models, I’ve got a couple bolt throwers, a white lion chariot, a tiranoc chariot, annointed, Caradryan on his Phoenix, Teclis, 10 shadow warriors, 10 sword masters, a Lothern skycutter, and a Lothern Sea Helm.

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High Elf 2500 Point List Oct 31, 2023 20:44:02 GMT

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Post by TyrrenAzureblade on Oct 31, 2023 20:44:02 GMT

On further changes you might want to consider:

You have two great anvils with the horde of Spearmen and the Phoenix Guard, but nothing really to hammer the opponent with aside from the Tyrion in Silver Helm unit. And that's going to be mostly on the charge. Tyrion will kill plenty and is great in a challenge, but your Silver Helms will have a tedious grind ahead of them if you're not breaking the unit you're charging with them in the first turn. You may want to put in those Swordmasters somewhere, maybe cut some of the Spearmen? In a small unit they're very maneuverable and if you can charge them into the flank of an already existing combat to support your Phoenix Guard or Spearmen, they can add a TON of combat resolution via kills.

You also lack chaff to block and redirect things. I threw in a unit of Reavers in there, but if you don't have the models, I don't see anything else you have that'll serve that role. The Tiranoc Chariot could do in a pinch, but it can't march so it might take a while to get it somewhere important on the field. I'd suggest you pick up some Great Eagles, or a couple of units of Reavers.

You may want to again, swap out the sisters, but this time put in your two bolt throwers. Those will help with some area denial, chaff clearing, and give your opponent some relatively cheap war machines to hunt thereby forcing them to use resources that could otherwise tie up your big infantry blocks. And just in case you find yourself facing monsters, they may be a more reliable way to punch through them.

I got lost in my usual army building and forgot that you're going Life for your mage. You'll probably want to take them off the horse and throw them in the archers as a bunker and keep them in the backlines to support your frontline. But if you want to stick with my initial suggestion, remember to keep Tyrion in the front with the command group so he takes up enough space to push the mage to the second rank to keep him safe, same with the BSB.