Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 11, 2017 17:24:59 GMT

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Post by frozenfood on May 11, 2017 17:24:59 GMT

Hey,
Next game is wicked woods scenario, 2500 points, no dispel scrolls.

NEW LIST:

Lords

Grey Seer (+ ToP + Earthing rod)
--> Stormvermin

Warlord (+ Obsidian trinket + Halberd + AoD + Ironcurse icon)
--> Stormvermin

Heroes

Warlock Engineer (lvl 1 hopefully with Cracks Call, doomrocket) --> Stormvermin

Warlock Engineer (+ Brass orb)
--> Stormvermin

Chieftain BSB (+ BSB + Armour of S steel + Halberd )
--> Stormvermin

Plague Priest (+ Plague Furnace + Scroll of shielding + Foul amulet + Flail + Lvl 2)

Core

45 Stormvermin (+ Mus + Champion + SB + Lichebone pennant)

70 Skaven slaves

20 Skaven slaves

5 rat darts

Special

45 Plague Monks (+ Champion + SB + Plague banner)

6 Gutter Runners (+ Slings + Poison)

5 Gutter Runners (+ Slings + Poison)

Rare

2 Warp Lightning Cannon

OLD LIST:
Lords

Grey Seer (+ ToP + Earthing rod)
--> Stormvermin
Warlord (+ Obsidian trinket + Halberd + AoD)
--> Stormvermin

Heroes

Warlock Engineer (+ Brass orb)
--> Stormvermin
Chieftain BSB (+ BSB + Armour of S steel + Halberd + Ironcurse icon)
--> Stormvermin

Warlock Engineer (+ Doom rocket)
--> 70 skavenslaves
Plague Priest (+ Plague Furnace + Scroll of shielding + Foul amulet + Flail + Lvl 2)

Core
45 Stormvermin (+ Mus + Champion + SB + Lichebone pennant)

70 Skaven slaves

20 Skaven slaves

5 rat darts

Special

44 Plague Monks (+ Champion + SB + Plague banner)

8 Gutter Runners (+ Slings + Poison)

8 Gutter Runners (+ Slings + Poison)

Rare

2 Warp Lightning Cannon

The rat darts are there to take out the manglers.
The cannons will shoot up Grimgor. Come on, he has to bring Grimgor to a match like this.
The engineers will attack whatever he brings to the center.

Now, what should I send to the forest? My unbreakable plague ladz or the cannonfodder rodents?

Last Edit: May 18, 2017 15:04:39 GMT by frozenfood

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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 11, 2017 17:44:04 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 17:44:04 GMT Do you have enough points in core? 90 slaves = 180 points 5 rat darts = ~125 points

Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 11, 2017 17:45:08 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 17:45:08 GMT I suspect there's a unit of stormvermin in the list, as your characters are mentioned as being placed in it. You just forgot to write it in?

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 11, 2017 18:11:26 GMT

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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 18:11:26 GMT

I like the MR spread across the army that should help mitigate some damage. I also like the large unit of plague monks. plague monks are nasty.

You should be able to get some good mileage out of the doom rocket and the brass orb. Both are pretty appropriate for OnG.

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 12, 2017 4:34:21 GMT via mobile KevinC likes this

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Post by frozenfood on May 12, 2017 4:34:21 GMT

May 11, 2017 17:44:04 GMT @ryryak said:

Do you have enough points in core?

90 slaves = 180 points

5 rat darts = ~125 points

The stormvermin, where are the nasties? Quick-quick, must think of an excuse or warlord will kill-murder me.
Ah, thank the horned rat. They are in the list again. Surely I am blessed by his filthy paws

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 12, 2017 7:36:52 GMT

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Post by frozenfood on May 12, 2017 7:36:52 GMT

My warlord is pretty wussy but if he's up against Grimgor or a beefed-up Warboss, he'll die anyway.
How wide should the Plague furnace be? I'm thinking 3 rats on either side. Thats 18 atatcks with rerolls on to hit and to wound in the first round. Should hurt.

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 12, 2017 16:52:35 GMT grandmasterwang likes this

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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 16:52:35 GMT

If you're going to go 3 per side you might as well go 1 wider (3 on one side and 4 on another) and get the extra rank of attacks for horde formation. Folks will be forced to contact the side with 4 models because of maximizing models that must fight so from those 4 guys you're looking at...21 attacks plus the furnace and priest. If the entire front rank manages combat then you're putting out 36 attacks plus the furnace itself and the priest. TECHNICALLY you could get 3 more attacks too as RAW the models behind the plague furnace get to attack as the only requirement for the second rank to fight is that the model in front of them (furnace) is in base contact with the enemy. This doesn't work for fight in extra ranks though as it specifically mentions the third (or more) rank and this rank would be taken up by the furnace.

Should hurt.

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 12, 2017 16:56:55 GMT

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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 16:56:55 GMT

If you have the model a war-litter is a good way to protect your warlord. If he's your general I would focus on defensive kit; try and get him a decent armor and a ward save if you can swing it. Skaven without a generals leadership are broken/panicked Skaven (slaves are LD5 without a general! NO WAY I'd ever want them outside of generals LD range). If it were me personally I'd try and keep him OUT of combat altogether.

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 13, 2017 8:45:28 GMT via mobile

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Post by frozenfood on May 13, 2017 8:45:28 GMT

He's got the best ward save in town but only a 5+ as and a s5 weapon. Not sure where to get the points for more. Thinking about a nakedlock to teleport towards fanatics.

Good call on the furnace, horde formation should be brutal.

Still not sure whether the slaves should go for the wicked wood. Would be fun to shoot into them after the doomlock dies. But an unbreakable furnace will be hard to move.

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grandmasterwang God Posts: 4,952	Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 14, 2017 11:09:54 GMT via Tapatalk Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by grandmasterwang on May 14, 2017 11:09:54 GMT Horde formation furnace sounds awesome. With the orcs 25mm bases you will get utility from the extra attacks even if your most edgemost skaven can't attack.

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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 18, 2017 15:09:51 GMT

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Post by frozenfood on May 18, 2017 15:09:51 GMT

Hmm, I'm really worried about his warmachines. They will decimate my forces. So I want a lvl 1 with Cracks Call to take them out.
This means some small rearranging of items and less gutter runners. I do like 2 units of gutter runners so that one of them can scout if necessary

NEW LIST:

Lords
Grey Seer (+ ToP + Earthing rod)
--> Stormvermin
Warlord (+ Obsidian trinket + Halberd + AoD + Ironcurse icon)
--> Stormvermin

Heroes
Warlock Engineer (lvl 1 hopefully with Cracks Call, doomrocket) --> Stormvermin
Warlock Engineer (+ Brass orb)
--> Stormvermin
Chieftain BSB (+ BSB + Armour of S steel + Halberd )
--> Stormvermin
Plague Priest (+ Plague Furnace + Scroll of shielding + Foul amulet + Flail + Lvl 2)

Core
45 Stormvermin (+ Mus + Champion + SB + Lichebone pennant)
70 Skaven slaves
20 Skaven slaves
5 rat darts

Special
45 Plague Monks (+ Champion + SB + Plague banner)
6 Gutter Runners (+ Slings + Poison)
5 Gutter Runners (+ Slings + Poison)

Rare
2 Warp Lightning Cannon

Last Edit: May 18, 2017 15:10:28 GMT by frozenfood

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Anaris Senior Member Posts: 292	Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 27, 2017 22:43:04 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Anaris on May 27, 2017 22:43:04 GMT This is going to be a really fun game.
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frozenfood God Posts: 923	Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 28, 2017 8:59:48 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by frozenfood on May 28, 2017 8:59:48 GMT Out of the seven armies we play, I think Skaven are my favorite. There are so many options available.
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Skaven 2500 wicked woods versus OnG May 30, 2017 16:28:19 GMT

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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 16:28:19 GMT

Skaven are a blast. Easily one of my favorite armies as well. They're self-destructive if the luck abandons you, they're random, you can fire into your own combats, they're amazingly deadly if the luck is with you, and a fully painted horde looks amazing.

September can't come fast enough (that should be around the time my 2000 point Skaven list is fully painted)

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