Where all our members at?!?

I think the main reason I've stuck with 8th are because:

I'm invested - I've spent a LOT of money over 20 years on models; some of those models and armies I don't have anymore, but when I've spent this much time and effort on a game system I'm going to stick with it regardless of what happens

Fantasy > Science Fiction - I'm a monsters and magic kind of guy. Tanks and giant guns just don't do it for me.

I like the game - 8th edition FINALLY turned fantasy into what I've always felt fantasy should be; big blocks of troops fighting big blocks of troops.

The competition isn't that great - AoS sucks. It's a simplified ruleset so that pre-and early teens with little-to-no patience can learn to play and (hopefully) spend a bunch of money before they inevitably drop it for something else. Some will stick with it though. People like myself who are [much] older and want to spend their disposable income in small[ish] amounts each month just aren't the target demographic for this game. I will say that I have high hopes for the skirmish set of rules; but that's all I see in AoS, a small, skirmish style game. The rules and the games just get stupid and clunky when you start trying to play larger games.
Kings of War I hear is good, but I love the army construction/list building too much to let that aspect of the hobby go. Also I don't really care for the abstract nature of units fighting units at full strength until they don't anymore. It's a good game but those "flaws" (IMO) keep it from being top-tier in my book.
9th age is terrible. They started strong with 1.1 and 1.2, but in their quest to make the game balanced for tournament play (why is this such a big deal? I just don't get tournaments and never have) they ruined the individual feel of the different armies, and taking away a lot of the randomness actually HURT the game in my opinion. Toning down magic as much as they did hurt the game IMO too. I will note though that if this were the only way to get in a fantasy mass battle game as much as it pains me to say it; I would play 9th Age. I played a guy this weekend with a Tomb Kings list and he kept complaining about 8th edition and all the things he didn't like about it; he prefers 9th age. To each his own I guess; if I ever play him again it will probably have to be 9th Age.

Which is why I ended up here. 8th edition, while flawed, is still the best fantasy game I've played in a very long time.

agreed. I don't think bigger is better when it comes to internet communities.

yeah, you guys are alright I guess...

Ogre Kingdoms is the one army I haven't gotten yet that is still on my list.

I did just buy the army book a few weeks ago, but I had given another copy that I had bought years ago to a friend of mine that got started playing OK. I've played them several times, but other than that, I can't contribute much more.

Oh, I'm right there with you!

I remember a time when a Land Raider was the biggest thing you could field and there was only 1 option in it's build! Now, it just looks rather pitiful against things like Wraithknights.  And thanks to new models like Nagash or Alarielle coming out... 

I've said it time and again, this is GW's way of pushing out the old and shoe-horning their new models. And, yes, those new Kharadron Overlords...ARE...NOT...DWARVES!!! There is NOTHING about them that says Dwarf to me other than their size...oh wait...that's not even the same. Is a Dwarf capable of being encased in armor? Yes, but he'll be wielding an axe and shield, not some Gatling Gun and floating by some lead balloon! Dwarves keep their feet firmly on the ground or beneath it! *Grumble, grumble grumble...!*  

I think saying AoS has little conversion potential misses out on some of the amazing things going on right now by some great hobbyists. I've seen a spectacular Brettonian themed Stormcast army and some great stuff being done with the undead in general for AoS.
For example scroll through Tyler Mengel's stuff twitter.com/MengelMinis/media

or on his web page
www.mengelminiatures.com/search/label/Mini%20of%20the%20Week

Sigh... you guys are relentless you know that?

Well let's see. First off, AoS has a player base who's ages cover everything old fantasy did, 12-26 getting into it and 30-40 year old vets returning due to the fresh change up of cleaner rules and models.

Secondly, huge battles are a thing in AoS. People play them at tournaments and there's formations allowing for humongous battles as they give multiple armies special abilities.

Thirdly, the new model > old model conspiracy is wrong as it's the older stuff that really packs a punch like the ogres, Bretonnians and Tomb kings.

In fact there's three new start collecting sets coming, one's Fyreslayers and the other two are Slaanesh and Ogres.

The size differences are hardly that bad as well. There's very little creep between mortal models between 6th and AoS. I don't know why why Nagash and Allarielle are being pointed out. They're gods, that's like being upset at a huge dragon because lizards can't get that big.

And finally Overlords are entirely up to peoples opinions whether you like them or not but GW have been going that direction for awhile now. Or do missile launching Irondrakes and double barreled gun-toting engineers that use ironclad ships, an armored train, submarines and dirigibles not count towards being too technological?

Besides, and I feel u must reiterate this point, they're not replacing the old fashioned Dwarf in the setting who still love beer, underground holds, axes and telling manlings their stuff is inferior to Dawi workmanship.

(Amusingly there's lore mentions of Rootking Dawi that seem to be natural allies of the treefolk in the life realm. You can bet they're not into new fangled tech. )

Sorry for the defensive rant but you guys just had to drag AoS into this. I know it's so great that you can't stop thinking about it but come on, gotta remember this is an 8th forum.

Also, the 9th age's 1.3 changes were a grave blow to my support as well. I can understand wanting to sell rulebooks to pay the devs but the drastic changes were just so abrupt.

The defenders of the changes saying 9th never promised the players anything was quite galling too. That community project was nothing but promises to "not throw away your army".