Played a game this evening with my lizards (vs WoC), I've take a couple of photos to upload should this get confusing but my opponent and I disagreed about how this was to be played.
The situation was this.
A unit of my warriors was charged by two chariots, the warriors took the impact hits and due to being steadfast held. In my turn I flank charged the nearest chariot with my Coldone knights. I killed the chariot and of corse carried on into the next chariot.
My opponent said as it was a single combat (with 4 units now fighting) my over run doesn't count as a fresh charge (so no spear bonus) but more importantly I don't get to fight another round of combat.
My argument is based around the fact had this been round two of the combat I'd not have over run and would therefore been clear of the comat and been able to reform and move away from the melee should I have wished it.
So who's right?
Do I get to charge into the first chariot kill it, over run into the second and fight another round of combat or just count as charging as I've over run OR is my opponent right and I gain no advantage at all from winning the previous combat as it's all one melee anyway?
As far as I understand your description, he was right. It is a single combat because after your movement phase there is base-to-base contact between your 'warriors' (I assume you mean saurus), your coldone knights and his two chariots. In close combat you do all the fighting by swinging in strict initiative order (not by unit). Then you calculate ONE combat result and resolve break tests, flee, pursuits etc.
not quite. chargers don't automatically go first (maybe that is what you are implying). you fight in initiative order. so..likely the chariot crew gets to swing first, then your coldone knights/saurus destroy the chariot. but, you don't overrun until everybody in the combat fought. pretty likely that second chariot will break and flee. it'll flee away from the big unit of saurus and unless those guys roll well on the pursuit the chariot will get away. your knight's overrun then won't hit the chariot as it'll just go straight along the front of the saurus.
edit: in case the second chariot did not break then yes, you'd get your charge bonus again. (all of this is a bit shaky without a photo or schematic)
Post by gregwarhamsters on Oct 10, 2017 22:54:19 GMT
If I'm reading this correctly the combat is part of a whole load of fighting, 4 unit you said. Well your unit can only fight once in this combat. Any casualties it inclicts are added up overall, it's only if you win a combat and move onto a whole new combat - hitting the first chariot and then the second in the same combat doesn't allow you to fight again (even if you can claim the "I'm charging" so get all the bonuses advantage in this case the spears) in a way apart from killing the first unit if he's yet to strike he could direct attacks against your new unit as I'm not sure when things are actually moved - it makes sense that the model once killed is automatically removed but maybe not move the models until the conclusion.
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