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Post by gangland on Mar 13, 2023 14:49:51 GMT
So start saving up for 2 starters now heh. The two armies I need,though if they are not compatible with older editions that means I'll probably be out.
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Post by gorfung on Mar 13, 2023 14:58:24 GMT
i need more brets, but not tk unfortunatly lol but either way at least we got some news
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Post by thegoat on Mar 13, 2023 15:00:22 GMT
Based on the size of the attached hands and arms, the tomb kings weapons are way, way, way too big. It is disappointing to see giant age of sigmar scale models.
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Post by sedge on Mar 13, 2023 15:01:45 GMT
Full article for the lazy: Old World Development Diary – Revealing the Weapons of War In today’s article we’re visiting the armouries of the Old World and giving you a first look at some of the weapons and wargear that can be found in the brand new plastic kits coming for the Kingdom of Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings of Khemri. En garde! Fresh from the forges of fair Bretonnia come new helmets, weapons and shields. Bretonnian knights commonly adorn their helmets with creatures that appear on their family heraldry, or those they believe they share a personality trait with. A knight famed for being stubborn in the face of adversity might sport a horned bull, while a noble renowned for their love of hunting may embellish their helm with a pair of antlers. These large helmets feature just a small selection of the fantastical birds and beasts you’ll see when the Bretonnian army marches to war. The fleur-de-lys is a common symbol, and features prominently upon the metallic trim of these shields. There is also plenty of room on the shield face to display the heraldry of whichever high-ranking noble your knights have pledged to. While the sword and lance are the preferred arms of the nobility, some knights – especially those from Brionne – prefer the head-hewing potential of a battleaxe. For the more traditionally-minded knight, however, there is a swathe of sword options, each with classic Bretonnian iconography on the crossguard or pommel. Tomb Kings and Liche Priests have always carried weapons and artefacts of exquisite quality and artifice. First up is an ornate spear with wings projecting out from the shaft – a feature designed to prevent an impaled victim from sliding too far down the blade! Above the spear is a spiked flail decorated with the symbol of a scarab towards the bottom of the handle – a common icon in Khemri and in Numas (known as The Scarab City), in particular. The large-bladed halberd and curved khopesh are signature weapons, each capable of slicing through armour, flesh and bone, with long sweeping blows. Weapons such as these have claimed an untold number of lives in the name of Settra the Imperishable and the eternal glory of Nehekhara. Alongside these is a ceremonial staff decorated with skulls and bones, held in the grip of a mummified hand. When the Liche Priests harness their magic to command the vast legions of the Undead, they rely upon these arcane staffs and icons to channel their macabre magic more effectively – reducing the risk of the fickle Winds of Magic acting against the caster’s wishes. Thanks to the Old World team for sharing this early preview. We’re looking forward to seeing more as we sally closer to release. For all the latest news about Warhammer: the Old World, check back on this very website.
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Post by sedge on Mar 13, 2023 15:10:59 GMT
I think it's a positive. We're finally getting some renders at least, rather than just maps and artwork. All the components look cool. Based on the size of the attached hands and arms, the tomb kings weapons are way, way, way too big. It is disappointing to see giant age of sigmar scale models. These are specifically for Tomb Kings (i.e. the characters leading your army, not the race as a whole) and Liche Priests. Characters have always tended to have larger/grander weapons than rank and file. These aren't going on Skeleton Warriors.
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Post by thegoat on Mar 13, 2023 15:25:11 GMT
Based on the size of the attached hands and arms, the tomb kings weapons are way, way, way too big. It is disappointing to see giant age of sigmar scale models. These are specifically for Tomb Kings (i.e. the characters leading your army, not the race as a whole) and Liche Priests. Characters have always tended to have larger/grander weapons than rank and file. These aren't going on Skeleton Warriors. I hear what you are saying. I still think they are too big. I recently picked up the new AoS Beastlord. He is larger than many of my classic 4th edition minotaurs. I get that character models should be impressive and stand out. But that is just dumb.
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Post by sedge on Mar 13, 2023 15:32:05 GMT
These are specifically for Tomb Kings (i.e. the characters leading your army, not the race as a whole) and Liche Priests. Characters have always tended to have larger/grander weapons than rank and file. These aren't going on Skeleton Warriors. I hear what you are saying. I still think they are too big. I recently picked up the new AoS Beastlord. He is larger than many of my classic 4th edition minotaurs. I get that character models should be impressive and stand out. But that is just dumb. For me, it's how it compares to 8th edition model scale that matters. Hopefully it's the same. 8th edition models were much larger than 4th edition ones; if a plastic Beastlord had come out in 8th, it would probably have towered over those old Minotaurs too.
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Post by Grimfang Gogulk on Mar 13, 2023 16:55:42 GMT
Interesting for sure! Glad we get some proper sneek peaks..
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Post by DiscoQing on Mar 13, 2023 16:56:34 GMT
I have the new elves and they seem fine to fit on 20mm...
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Post by chronicallychaotic66 on Mar 13, 2023 17:37:57 GMT
thegoat. I’m not aware of minotaurs from 4th ed? Though I was on hiatus from the game then. I used to have some 3rd ed ones that fitted on 25mm bases and they were probably about the same size as that new beastlord, though 3rd Ed models in general are tiny compared to later editions. The 5th Ed Minos (got 18 of em) might just be similar height (?) but are deffo bulkier. (Disclaimer - I’m using Mark Dienekes’ photo of his nicely painted AoS beastlord next to a gor as my reference here, I don’t own that beastlord model). Anyway, on topic. Yeah based on this plus the previous lore previews seems likely the starter set will be those 2 armies. Pleased they are focussing on bringing back armies from wfb that were lost in AoS. Though new kits maybe/probably means the old kits aren’t coming back which is a shame. Not going to collect either of these armies though. Been there done that with Brets and got TKs in warmaster.
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Post by thegoat on Mar 13, 2023 19:13:34 GMT
thegoat . I’m not aware of minotaurs from 4th ed? Though I was on hiatus from the game then. I used to have some 3rd ed ones that fitted on 25mm bases and they were probably about the same size as that new beastlord, though 3rd Ed models in general are tiny compared to later editions. The 5th Ed Minos (got 18 of em) might just be similar height (?) but are deffo bulkier. (Disclaimer - I’m using Mark Dienekes’ photo of his nicely painted AoS beastlord next to a gor as my reference here, I don’t own that beastlord model). Yup, the 3rd edition minotaurs are the ones I'm talking about. I bought mine during 4th edition. So that is the section of my brain where they live. Back then, I believe, minotaurs came on 25mm bases and minotaur lords came on 40mm bases.
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Post by chronicallychaotic66 on Mar 13, 2023 19:19:29 GMT
Sounded like you still have yours? I cannibalised mine years ago for spawn conversions and the like which I slightly regret now. Would like to see your paint job on them. Your Sigmar’s Blood stuff looks great.
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Post by Darnok on Mar 14, 2023 10:29:10 GMT
That last teaser was quite something, super excited.
Not only do we see actually new stuff coming for both Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings, but we also get a confirmation of it being with new plastic kits.
Now we have to wait and see when these actually hit. As pointed out by Tsagualsa on Dakka², concerning similar teasers for Sisters of Battle before they got their massive plastic redesign:
So there could be quite some waiting time ahaed of us.
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Post by johngg on Mar 14, 2023 11:46:56 GMT
I recently picked up the new AoS Beastlord. He is larger than many of my classic 4th edition minotaurs. I get that character models should be impressive and stand out. But that is just dumb. people in generaly were shorter in the 1990's
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Post by johngg on Mar 14, 2023 11:47:37 GMT
I hear what you are saying. I still think they are too big. I recently picked up the new AoS Beastlord. He is larger than many of my classic 4th edition minotaurs. I get that character models should be impressive and stand out. But that is just dumb. For me, it's how it compares to 8th edition model scale that matters. Hopefully it's the same. 8th edition models were much larger than 4th edition ones; if a plastic Beastlord had come out in 8th, it would probably have towered over those old Minotaurs too. so much this...
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