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Post by sedge on Aug 1, 2018 12:09:51 GMT
Games Workshop's annual report is out: s19485.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Annual-report-with-cover-final-v.pdfIt makes for good reading for them - they're doing extremely well, growing rapidly and remaining highly profitable. There's little snippets of interest in there, but the main one that might interest us is that they're significantly expanding their manufacturing capabilities, and have spent a large sum on land adjoining their Nottingham site which they're going to expand into. That means the hectic pace of the release schedule is not going to slow down. Hopefully, it also gives them the capacity to keep producing a lot of the older WFB kits that might otherwise be scrapped (and potentially to one day bring back Tomb King plastics?). 38% of their sales are from new releases, 62% from existing products (though they don't define new releases). I know lots of WFB fans (myself included) initially wanted AoS to bomb, and WFB to triumphantly return - it's very clear that won't happen now, even if GW won't reveal the 40k/AoS/others split. But GW's continued success is in our interest, as it means the existing WFB kits are more likely to remain available, plus if GW prospers perhaps one day it'll have the ability and inclination to bring back ranked fantasy wargaming, even if only as a niche product. |
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Post by roughtimes on Aug 1, 2018 12:35:57 GMT
Does this not include total war?
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Post by sedge on Aug 1, 2018 12:51:17 GMT
Total War is included - pertinent parts:
Licensing
The team has had another solid year thanks to the on-going successes of Total War: Warhammer, and Warhammer: Vermintide 2.
Reported income is split as follows: 89% PC and console games, 7% mobile and 4% other.
Royalty income
Royalty income increased in the year by £2.4 million to £9.9 million. This was due to the strong performances of Total War: Warhammer II
and Warhammer: Vermintide 2.
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Aug 1, 2018 13:23:05 GMT
That's a lot of money based off these two games - both excellent by the way. Shows the Old World has drawing power... too bad GW doesn't take advantage.
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Post by knoffles on Aug 1, 2018 17:53:07 GMT
Their acid ratio is good amongst other things and I ran a credit check on them too, just to see what came back and that looked very favourable.
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Post by Horace on Aug 2, 2018 12:59:01 GMT
They really seem to be doing well. Just shows the effect catering to what your clientele wants can have. If they lowered prices, either through some sort of loyalty scheme or just outright, and re-released WFB (even as an errata-ed 8th with a Brets book) they would be doing a perfect job
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Post by grandmasterwang on Aug 3, 2018 0:30:37 GMT
Aos was the 5th most popular tabletop game in the US according to recent figures. 40k was first as expected, Warmachine was 3rd and beat out aos which was surprising to me.
GW have been pumping out the releases and the start collecting boxes make the hobby more accessible. I know the primarch's have done really well for them.
I still think Fantasy will be back in the future in some form, even if it's only a stand alone box set.
Glad the new GW boss has turned things around... they have made great strides and their digital content/marketing is 500 times better than it was in the days of WFB 8th.
Total War killing it as expected, but with such an amazing setting it's to be expected.
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Post by mottdon on Aug 3, 2018 12:40:33 GMT
What was taking the #2 and #4 spots? I'm sure X-Wing must've been somewhere up there.
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Post by gjnoronh on Aug 3, 2018 12:42:12 GMT
Xwing has dropped off quite a bit to my understanding in the last year or so. They have a new edition coming out in the fall.
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Post by mottdon on Aug 4, 2018 0:05:06 GMT
Huh. That's funny. It was all some people could talk about for a while.
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Aug 5, 2018 14:22:10 GMT
All the X-Wing interest switched to Legion, even more so since 2nd edition was announced (everyone waiting to see the changes).
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Post by gjnoronh on Aug 6, 2018 14:14:37 GMT
Yeah Xwing was on fire for a bit. I can't speak to others but what I found is there were several problems from my perspective
1) You had to continuously be buying stuff, including ships you didn't want to get the upgrades (small pieces of cardboard) that let your list be competitive. Some ships were famous for being useless but having that 1 great card everyone wanted $20 for the ship which got tossed in a box and never used. In some cases it was a $100 ship for a single upgrade. I don't mind buying a toy soldier that I will lovingly build and pain and play with essentially forever a 'cool new thing' but $20 for a piece of cardboard that quickly gets overwhelmed by the next great thing seems crazy.
2) The continuously elevating power curve with every release meant that early fan favorite character (Darth Vader, Luke) were seriously underpowered within a year or two. They issued several upgrades to attempt to fix this (see problem 1 above) but random characters from comic books or movies or 30 seconds of screen time were better then the core characters. My ties to Star Wars revolve around those stars of the films when they stink I wonder why I'm playing a Star Wars game.
3) Related to #2 the problem with this system for a minis game is the stuff we love about the universe is largely predefined (stars of the first and third trilogy, second trilogy has far fewer fan favorites) so there is a defined population of releases that I'm going to feel emotional attachment to. Warhammer I may love a special character (Grom for Kevin!) but when a new release comes out for my army I'm going to otherwise have as much an attachment to it as the thing in my current army.
Our Xwing nights locally went from 20-30 people weekly down to 4. That drop off happened pre Legion.
I think FFG has a highly predatory business model Xwing, Armada, Imperial Assault they weren't built as game systems that were designed to survive for decades. They were designed to pull the cashout of the customer while FFG has the IP rights without concern about a long term sustainable game. All three of those have dropped off somewhat or died completely nationally even though released to huge fanfare from FFG. I personally look at Legion with the same kind of concern.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Aug 7, 2018 12:43:26 GMT
What was taking the #2 and #4 spots? I'm sure X-Wing must've been somewhere up there. Nolzurs DnD miniatures took number 2 which I'm happy about. For the price they are great value sculpts. Legion took number 4. Xwing out of the top 5. |
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