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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 12, 2019 15:20:52 GMT
I was bored and so I decided to make an armylist. How well do you think this one balances fun with having some kick to it?
What changes do you think would improve either and/or both aspects?
Chaos Lord [335pts]: Mark of Nurgle, Shield, Soul Feeder, Filth Mace, Helm of Many Eyes,Talisman of Preservation
Chaos Sorcerer Lord [394pts]: Lore of Nurgle, Level 4, Mark of Nurgle, Barded Chaos Steed, Flaming Breath, Charmed Shield, Dispel Scroll, Talisman of Endurance
Exalted Hero [216pts]: Battle Standard Bearer, Halberd, Mark of Nurgle, Hideous Visage, Scaled Skin, Dawnstone, Dragonhelm, Ironcurse Icon
5x Chaos Warhound [40pts]: Vanguard
5x Chaos Warhound [40pts]: Vanguard
19x Chaos Warrior [353pts]: Full Command, Mark of Nurgle, Shields - BSB goes in here.
17x Chaos Warriors [353pts]: Full Command, Halberds, Mark of Nurgle - Lord goes in here.
5x Chaos Knights [270pts]: Full Command, Banner of Swiftness, Ensorcelled Weapons, Mark of Nurgle - Sorcerer Lord goes in here.
Gorebeast Chariot [140pts]: Mark of Nurgle
Gorebeast Chariot [140pts]: Mark of Nurgle
Chaos Giant [215pts]: Giant of Nurgle
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Sept 12, 2019 15:48:51 GMT
Coool. I like it.
Needs more GW as "Can Openers" for opposing knights, DemiGriffs, Dwarfs, etc.
I'd give the Lord a GW versus Filth Mace, but that's just me.
I'd give the unit of Warriors with the BSB GWs... but that's just me.
**Edit, GW = +2S Great Weapons
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 13, 2019 10:31:22 GMT
I'm definitely not settled on the Filth Mace for the lord, but wouldn't it be a shame to waste the great initiative of the character on a GW? I have the same "worry" about equipping my warriors with GWs.
In regard to the need of a can-opener I was thinking that I'd use the Sorcerer's Stream of Corruption for that. While far from reliable it is quite devastating when pulled off, especially against knights.
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Sept 13, 2019 19:47:42 GMT
Wouldn't it be a shame to waste the great initiative of the character on a GW? I have the same "worry" about equipping my warriors with GWs. You, sir, are 100% right. This is much debated thing in my own brain as well. It can sometimes be a match-up decision. I tend to decide that I don't need the quickness and I want to heavy punch. --But that's cause I want to kill DemiGriff Knights dead. So very dead. --Also, I want to kill Steam Tanks if and when I can. What did The Empire ever do to me?? |
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 13, 2019 22:44:45 GMT
I feel you, man.
I haven't actually tried my hands at GW-wielding Warriors in a game and whenever I'm considering it I chicken out and go for the halberds.
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 15, 2019 7:11:26 GMT
I like halberds over great-weapons as it keeps the initiative and s5 is a lot of the times as good as s6(elves, rats).
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Sept 15, 2019 11:33:45 GMT
Don't ask what the Empire did to you, but what you did to the Empire... |
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Sept 16, 2019 12:25:40 GMT
I could do 1000 words on this -
Essentially, I go through match-ups.
Matchup 1). Elves. Chaos Warrior base S4 versus T3. Halberds now give me 2+ to wound.
Maybe a GW would further reduce armor on a unit of Elf Knights, but - In general not worth it.
Matchup 2). Empire. Chaos Warrior base S4 versus T4 knights, I want that S6 making TO WOUND rolls at 2+.
The prevalence of 1+ Armor saves in Empire armies make S6 even more attractive, etc etc.
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 16, 2019 12:59:47 GMT
You must face a lot of demigryphs and stanks as most of the stuff is T3 in empire  I thought the daemon prince and lords/heros and so on should handle those pretty well? Or running metal sorc. I personally really like the metal sorc with woc. |
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 17, 2019 12:05:34 GMT
Seeing as the elves would hit you first anyhow due to ASF would you really lose anything by going GWs against them?
After all, the only good elf is a dead one.
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 17, 2019 12:40:01 GMT
Seeing as the elves would hit you first anyhow due to ASF would you really lose anything by going GWs against them? After all, the only good elf is a dead one. Perhaps  but there is a lot of the great elves that has GW(white lion, swordmaster, executioners and so on) and you want to hit em at same time. It’s a perplex question that might need a statistical table All I can say is that you usually win combat with WoC halberdiers no matter what you are up against. I find it usually doesn’t matter if you win combat with 10 or 12 😂🤪 |
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Sept 17, 2019 17:04:54 GMT
Oh yeah, I forgot about that elves themselves can have GWs. With that in consideration I'd definitely go halberds against them.
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Post by wilsonthenarc on Sept 17, 2019 20:50:03 GMT
But there is a lot of the great elves that has GW... white lion, swordmaster, executioners and so on Agreed. One of my fears is blocks of 30 to 40 White Lions and/or Sword Masters. That is a thing that Chaos Warriors can't always just rough up easily. That said, Halberds might be a better choice against those units. MATH-HAMMER time?? |
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but there is a lot of the great elves that has GW(white lion, swordmaster, executioners and so on) and you want to hit em at same time. It’s a perplex question that might need a statistical table