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Post by mwills11 on Oct 8, 2022 13:02:31 GMT
Hi their,
Trying to remember what causes a fast cav unit to lose that “rule”, is it when a character is given heavy armour? Specifically thinking of dark riders and dread lords on dark steeds.
Thanks
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Oct 8, 2022 13:42:08 GMT
There are some units that will lose the FC special rule, if they are equipped with certain options, but that is not because of a general rule, but because it is specifically stated in their Army List entry. For instance, Empire Outriders will lose the special rule, if they are equipped with barding, and O&G Hobgoblin Wolf Riders, if they are equipped with a shield. AFAIK, there is no such restriction for Dark Riders, or Dread Lords with heavy armour on Dark Steeds.
The only general rule is this (BRB p. 68): "If a Fast Cavalry unit is joined by a character without the Fast Cavalry rule, the unit loses the rule until the character leaves."
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Post by mwills11 on Oct 8, 2022 14:00:14 GMT
Ok, much appreciated for the reply
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Post by thegoat on Oct 8, 2022 15:51:44 GMT
... and O&G Hobgoblin Wolf Riders ... Curious? That option doesn't appear in my O&G army book. |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Oct 8, 2022 16:14:43 GMT
Yes, that must be Goblin Wolf Riders. My memory is not any longer what it never used to be.
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Post by thegoat on Oct 8, 2022 16:17:22 GMT
Yes, that must be Goblin Wolf Riders. My memory is not any longer what it never used to be. That is what I assumed you meant. But I wasn't going to pass up a chance to give you what for.  |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Oct 8, 2022 16:23:34 GMT
As it happens, both your assumption and my correction turn out to be wrong: it is the Legion of Azgorh Hobgoblins from Tamurkhan. The O&G Goblin Wolf Riders do not lose the FC special rule for having a shield.
At least I got this right:
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Post by knoffles on Oct 26, 2022 18:01:42 GMT
As it happens, both your assumption and my correction turn out to be wrong: it is the Legion of Azgorh Hobgoblins from Tamurkhan. The O&G Goblin Wolf Riders do not lose the FC special rule for having a shield. At least I got this right: I think the goblins lose it if they are given both light armour and shields |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Oct 26, 2022 21:59:10 GMT
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Post by knoffles on Oct 29, 2022 22:00:02 GMT
I never played 7th so it must be a memory throwback to probably 5th 😁 If only people would read the current rules and not impose previous editions rules on it 😂 |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Oct 30, 2022 8:17:11 GMT
Going down memory lane:
In 6th, Goblin Wolf Riders had no standard equipment other than HW. You could give them LA for free, but then they lost FC.
In 7th, standard equipment was HW and LA. If you bought them a shield, they lost FC.
In 8th, standard equipment is HW & LA, and whatever upgrade you buy, they will not lose FC.
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