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Post by gregwarhamsters on Jan 13, 2019 21:56:40 GMT
Remains in play spell - to dispel or not to dispel that is the question.
Previous game I was dispelling my opponents Throne of vines spell either as he tried to cast it or in my own magic phase with my power dice. My opponent then tried a different tact in our next game.
He had 4 dice in his hand while I also had 4 dice. Throne of vines was in. I was going to use my dispel dice to get rid of it. I was expecting him to cast something else but he calmly said "Are you going to dispel throne?" Now I almost threw the dice when it dawned on me, he could cast it using the dice he held in his hand.
Mexican standoff...
Who blinks first?
Now I can't find anything that really gives me a Yes/No to this, normally I'd go with it's your phase - you've concluded it, now I get to do something with my remaining dice but I cannot support that anywhere in the LRB. I'm aware I can dispel a RiP spell at any stage of the phase (Page 36 Column 2)
Thoughts?
Greg
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jan 13, 2019 23:37:14 GMT
As you say, you can dispel any RiP spell "at any point during a subsequent Magic phase, using dispel dice as normal, or dice from the power pool as if they were dispel dice if it is your turn." It boils down to what you consider fair play. You certainly do not need to answer his question, and could, RAW, dispel ToV, while he is still resolving the spell. Personally, I would not dispel ToV beyond the dispel sub-phase.
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Jan 14, 2019 5:47:42 GMT
Personally, I would not dispel ToV beyond the dispel sub-phase. So you'd not use say power dice to get rid of it? It's (99% of the time) easier just to get rid of the "8" in your phase as opposed to them rolling loads of dice at it. Anyway, slightly off topic... In summary My opponent isn't breaking any rule with what he's doing, or how he's doing it. Greg
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jan 14, 2019 9:11:49 GMT
I was referring to your example, which happens in the opponent's Magic phase. According to the rule, you could still dispel ToV, when your opponent is resolving the spell. Obviously, you can always postpone dispelling ToV until your own Magic phase. You cannot really give a general rule whether that is better or not, as it would depend on the actual situation.
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Post by vulcan on Jan 14, 2019 22:49:55 GMT
My general tactic in this situation is to let TOV through, let him declare further casting, and dispel what he casts instead. Aside from miscast protection, it doesn't do anything on it's own.
Then I dispel TOV in my magic phase, forcing him to waste power dice recasting it next turn.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Jan 14, 2019 23:13:52 GMT
vulcan has a good point there - including the fact that this is apparently not a rules' but a tactics' question.
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Post by knoffles on Jan 18, 2019 8:02:49 GMT
My general tactic in this situation is to let TOV through, let him declare further casting, and dispel what he casts instead. Aside from miscast protection, it doesn't do anything on it's own. Then I dispel TOV in my magic phase, forcing him to waste power dice recasting it next turn. I’d probably do this, as there is a chance he will fail to cast (or IFs) the non-ToV spell, in which case you can still choose to Dispel ToVs at that point. Apologies for the digress as this started as a rules query and moved to more tactics but it is related.
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