I do the mash, I do the monster mash

knoffles
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I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 21, 2019 12:21:28 GMT grandmasterwang, strutsagget, and 1 more like this

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Post by knoffles on Jan 21, 2019 12:21:28 GMT

So for the new year, I've been thinking about what army I want to acquire next. As ever it normally has to be completely opposite to the one i'm currently using. It will likely be Lizards as I've picked up a few things here and there and both the variety of colours you can paint the army, together with the plethora of monsters is definitely selling it for me. The fact they are still supported and you can still buy get starting kits, also helps. I'm trying to do something a bit different from the 2 block saurus and slann.

So with that said, here is my first attempt at a list.

Lords/Heroes - 1015pts

Saurus Oldblood (General) - Sacred Stegadon Helm of Itza, Talisman of Preservation, GW, Carnosaur - 451pts

Saurus Scar-Vet (BSB) - Amour of Destiny, GW, Carnosaur - 379pts

Tetto'eko - 185pts

Core - 629pts

Skink Cohort - FC, 37 Skinks, Javelin, shield, poisoned attacks, 4 Kroxigor - 489pts

Skink Skirmishers (10) - Javelin, shield, poisoned attacks - 70pts

Skink Skirmishers (10) - Javelin, shield, poisoned attacks - 70pts

Special - 390pts

Rippersactyls (3) - 120pts

Rippersactyls (3) - 120pts

Bastiladon - Solar Engine - 150pts

Rare - 460pts

Ancient Stegadon - 230pts

Ancient Stegadon - 230pts

My thoughts were to put as large of a number of gribblies as possible (Carnosaurs, Stegs etc. The Skink cohort with Krox I took rather than Saurus because I rarely see it and I like the fluff of the big guys protecting their smaller spawn mates.

There's no slann in order to fit in 2 Carnosaurs but I thought Tetto'eko and the Solar Engine would give a decent magic phase.

The Skink skirmishers are to give some chaff (and fill out core) whilst the ripperdactyls are again something that ticks all the fluff boxes, frenzied flying dinosaurs, what's not to love!! (I thought they might also be reasonably useful and able to benefit from the increased LD bubble of the general and bsb).

I would have loved to have fit the engine of the gods on one of the Steg's but not sure what I would cut to allow that.

Has anyone else used monster mash lists?

And because I've had it stuck in my head:

Last Edit: Jan 22, 2019 21:53:53 GMT by knoffles

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I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 22, 2019 11:46:27 GMT via Tapatalk knoffles likes this

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Post by dannytee on Jan 22, 2019 11:46:27 GMT

I like it and don’t really have any comments for modifications. My opinion is if your are going to take any monsters you should actually take at least three to make sure some make it to combat alive. You have five so well exceed my minimum.

jukei God Posts: 618	I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 23, 2019 10:06:21 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jukei on Jan 23, 2019 10:06:21 GMT I also like the list . Let us know how they perform ....

knoffles God Posts: 4,433	I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 23, 2019 20:29:08 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by knoffles on Jan 23, 2019 20:29:08 GMT Jan 23, 2019 10:06:21 GMT jukei said: I also like the list . Let us know how they perform .... Have to buy half the figures first. I just love list building so couldn’t resist 😀
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I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 23, 2019 20:53:22 GMT grandmasterwang and knoffles like this

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Post by crownprinceimrik on Jan 23, 2019 20:53:22 GMT

I've tried a list similar to this, and have written several that feature dual Carnosaurs, but never played them because my second Carnosaur is still in a box.

I've got a few suggestions based on my experience and other things.
Firstly, I'd drop the Bastiladon. It never performs for me. Yes it has a 2+ armor, but then its only T5 and it is a horrible S4 so it doesn't do well in CC at all. Using those spare points you can upgrade one of the Ancient Stegadons to the EotG to cover the loss of the Bastiladon in magic and actually make it better. The casting improvement will really help Tetto'Eko with those Heavens spells since he is only Level 2.
Also, I'd suggest buying a small unit of Skinks to be a mage bunker for Tetto'Eko. I'd not put him in the big Skrox block because Skrox should be in CC but aren't actually that durable in CC and it could risk Tetto'Eko's safety, they aren't Temple Guard by any stretch. Just a 50 point 10-man cohort can work.
I'd also suggest trying to get Bloodroar and Loping Stride on your Carnosaurs. Loping Stride is great for helping them get into CC as fast as possible, and it's a real crime that Carnosaurs don't have Swiftstride to begin with. Bloodroar is also great for offsetting the low WS by making it more likely for your enemies to fail the fear tests. It can also really help disrupt your enemy's strategy by making them fail Terror checks a lot more than they normally would. Especially when you tag team the Carnosaurs together and have them both charge the same enemy unit each turn causing them to fail checks left and right.

I haven't managed to play a full monster mash Lizardmen list before, though I dearly want to. Let me know how it goes if you get around to assembling your minis before I do!

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I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 23, 2019 22:26:35 GMT knoffles likes this

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Post by livewaaaaagh on Jan 23, 2019 22:26:35 GMT

I agree a bit with Crownprinceimrik - Tetto doesn't want to be up front, but a Skrox unit does. So, consider a small -0 I wouldn't do 10, but maybe 15-20 unit of HW/S Skinks to bunker Tetto. Then, either go Skrox, or Saurus, or Skink cloud.

jukei God Posts: 618	I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 24, 2019 8:15:12 GMT knoffles likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jukei on Jan 24, 2019 8:15:12 GMT got it...;-) but you can always proxy in the meanwhile.... (it happens often that the list changes before you buy everything ....:-)
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knoffles God Posts: 4,433	I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 24, 2019 18:03:17 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by knoffles on Jan 24, 2019 18:03:17 GMT Ooo good points on the carnosaurs and stegs. To be honest I forgot the carnosaurs could be upgraded. Lizard noob error.
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grandmasterwang God Posts: 4,999	I do the mash, I do the monster mash Jan 25, 2019 1:47:42 GMT via Tapatalk knoffles likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by grandmasterwang on Jan 25, 2019 1:47:42 GMT I 100% support your monster mash list

Post by knoffles on Jan 21, 2019 12:21:28 GMT

Post by dannytee on Jan 22, 2019 11:46:27 GMT

Post by jukei on Jan 23, 2019 10:06:21 GMT

Post by knoffles on Jan 23, 2019 20:29:08 GMT

Post by crownprinceimrik on Jan 23, 2019 20:53:22 GMT

Post by livewaaaaagh on Jan 23, 2019 22:26:35 GMT

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