Dwarves v Ogres 1500

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 25, 2019 22:29:41 GMT via Tapatalk lordofskullpass likes this

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Post by saniles on Jan 25, 2019 22:29:41 GMT

I’m going to have the pleasure of playing against a buddy I haven’t seen in a few years while on a business trip and I’m bringing my Ogres and dwarves to make it happen.

The ogre list is based on what I’ve constructed so far and what I can reasonably assemble before I see him. That said, the list for the ogres list is pretty straight forward. I figure that both lists present a decent challenge for either of us no matter which army we play. So without further delay:

++ Standard (Dwarfs - Army Book (2014-2) -V8.8.0.) [1499pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)

+ Lords +

Lord [307pts]: Dwarf Pistol, Great Weapon, Shieldbearers
. Ancestral Heirlooms and Runes: AB - Fiery Ring of Thori, Rune of Fury (1st rune), Rune of Stone, Rune of Warding (1st rune), Rune of Warding (2nd rune), Rune of Warding (3rd rune)

+ Heroes +

Master Engineer [70pts]

Thane [90pts]: Battle Standard Bearer

+ Core +

Thunderers [387pts]: Musician
. 29x Thunderer: 29x Shields

+ Special +

Cannon [150pts]
. Cannon: Rune of Burning, Rune of Forging

Ironbreakers [370pts]: 25x Ironbreaker, Musician, Standard Bearer

+ Rare +

Organ Gun [125pts]
. Organ Gun: Rune of Burning

++ Total: [1499pts] ++

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++ Standard (Ogre Kindoms - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.1.) [1499pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

- Army Size: Army (0-2999 points)

+ Lords +

Slaughtermaster [355pts]: Lore of the Great Maw, Wizard Level 3
. Magic Items: BRB - Crown of Command, BRB - Earthing Rod, BRB - Talisman of Preservation

+ Heroes +

Bruiser [179pts]: Heavy Armour
. Battle Standard Bearer: BRB - Razor Standard

+ Core +

Ironguts [407pts]: Champion, 9x Ironguts, Standard Bearer

Ogres [376pts]
. Bellower
. Champion
. 11x Ogres: 11x Additional Hand Weapon
. Standard Bearer: Look-out Gnoblar

+ Special +

Leadbelchers [182pts]: Bellower, 4x Leadbelchers

++ Total: [1499pts] ++

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livewaaaaagh Senior Member Posts: 387	Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 26, 2019 3:52:19 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by livewaaaaagh on Jan 26, 2019 3:52:19 GMT That’s a lot of Thunderers!

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 26, 2019 4:38:30 GMT via Tapatalk

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Post by saniles on Jan 26, 2019 4:38:30 GMT

Yup! The thinking is that the ogres will whoop down warriors pretty handedly in CC, so I figured I might as well do Warriors with guns and shields to maybe do some wounds before that happens, hopefully giving the dwarves a better chance

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 26, 2019 21:34:12 GMT grandmasterwang and lordofskullpass like this

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Post by sedge on Jan 26, 2019 21:34:12 GMT

Do you have alternate core options for your Dwarves, or just the Thunderers you can field?

They're not one of the strongest units - Quarrelers are the better bet for their range, and also S3 Dwarves really need great weapons to be effective in combat. The shields won't make much of a difference - it's inflicting wounds that will help most.

If you are sticking with the Thunderers, then Grimm Burlocksson is worth trying to fit into your list, as his special ability lets him increase their range (or re-roll misses) and works extremely well with a large block of them.

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 26, 2019 21:40:12 GMT via Tapatalk

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Post by saniles on Jan 26, 2019 21:40:12 GMT

Jan 26, 2019 21:34:12 GMT sedge said:

Do you have alternate core options for your Dwarves, or just the Thunderers you can field?

They're not one of the strongest units - Quarrelers are the better bet for their range, and also S3 Dwarves really need great weapons to be effective in combat. The shields won't make much of a difference - it's inflicting wounds that will help most.

If you are sticking with the Thunderers, then Grimm Burlocksson is worth trying to fit into your list, as his special ability lets him increase their range (or re-roll misses) and works extremely well with a large block of them.

I can do GW warriors if necessary, but I didn’t build quarrelers unfortunately. I’ll have to get some eventually. I figured the ranged attack would be better than GW warriors actually just so they have some more shooting to attempt to reduce the ogre block sizes. I can do Grimm though, good idea! I’ll have to fiddle around with the list to see what I’ll need to trade out. Also, I figured giving some survivability would be useful. Ogres are only S4, so I’d not lose too much in the way of AS. Not the ironguts of course, the IB needs to hit them.

The IB will be able to hold their own for a while, hopefully, the shooting will be able to reduce either the bulls or ironguts to a manageable size.

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 27, 2019 1:02:13 GMT via Tapatalk

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Post by dannytee on Jan 27, 2019 1:02:13 GMT

Both lists look reasonably balanced to me. For the ogres I kind of want to suggest a saber tusk or two and/or an iron blaster to help counter act the dwarf artillery. At the same time however ogres are fast so can get to combat pretty quickly. So it isn’t a big deal and with it being 1,500 points you will never get everything you would like.

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 27, 2019 1:03:56 GMT via Tapatalk

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Post by saniles on Jan 27, 2019 1:03:56 GMT

Jan 27, 2019 1:02:13 GMT dannytee said:

Both lists look reasonably balanced to me. For the ogres I kind of want to suggest a saber tusk or two and/or an iron blaster to help counter act the dwarf artillery. At the same time however ogres are fast so can get to combat pretty quickly. So it isn’t a big deal and with it being 1,500 points you will never get everything you would like.

True enough!! But as I mentioned before, unfortunately I’m a bit restricted on what I’ve built/what I can get built before we battle. So I kinda had to keep it simple. Glad you think it’s balanced. That’s what I’m going for.

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 27, 2019 20:24:36 GMT via mobile grandmasterwang likes this

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Post by knoffles on Jan 27, 2019 20:24:36 GMT

The only thing I thought I’d point out is the dwarf Lord can’t use his great weapon as the rune of fury will only go on a hand weapon and he would have to use that instead of the GW (as per the brb). You could only add runes to a GW in the previous dwarf book.
I’d keep the great weapon personally and change the rune of fury to something else (unless it’s a typo and it’s meant to be an armour rune).

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 30, 2019 3:06:17 GMT via Tapatalk knoffles and strutsagget like this

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Post by saniles on Jan 30, 2019 3:06:17 GMT

Jan 27, 2019 20:24:36 GMT knoffles said:

The only thing I thought I’d point out is the dwarf Lord can’t use his great weapon as the rune of fury will only go on a hand weapon and he would have to use that instead of the GW (as per the brb). You could only add runes to a GW in the previous dwarf book.
I’d keep the great weapon personally and change the rune of fury to something else (unless it’s a typo and it’s meant to be an armour rune).

Oh really??? I’ll have to look into that then... maybe throw out the parts you are looking at if you don’t mind so I can follow you.

Edit: So I found what you were saying. It’s not in the BRB really, it’s in the AB page 60. “....choose weapon runes from the following list and apply them to his hand weapon.” So yep. Pretty clear, I just didn’t see that part. Thanks for catching that!

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Dwarves v Ogres 1500 Jan 30, 2019 3:35:56 GMT via Tapatalk grandmasterwang, knoffles, and 1 more like this

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Post by saniles on Jan 30, 2019 3:35:56 GMT

Ok! So I changed it by giving the Lord the first rune of iron and I gave my thane a pistol... cause what else am I going to do with 6 points.

So now the lord is (all things considered). A WS7, Str 6, T5, W6, 1+, 4++ badass....

Gosh I hope my buddy chooses ogres for one of the battles. I want to go ham on some ogre characters with that dude.

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