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Post by strutsagget on Mar 2, 2019 13:36:27 GMT
So for the first time, I will field my newly painted cauldron of blood.
Not sure how to build this list. My idea is to have bolts and magic to kill chaff in the way of the witches.
Edit: we run 25% lord/heroes.
Little Cauldron
Dark Elves
Supreme Sorceress: Lore of Dark Magic; Dark Steed; Dispel Scroll; Talisman of Endurance 260
Death Hag: Battle Standard; Sword of Might 130
• Cauldron of Blood 190
28 Witch Elves: musician; standard bearer 328
6 Dark Riders: musician; shields; repeater crossbows 130
Reaper Bolt Thrower 70
Reaper Bolt Thrower 70
Reaper Bolt Thrower 70
6 Doomfire Warlocks 150
1 398 points
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Post by crownprinceimrik on Mar 2, 2019 18:35:20 GMT
The list looks interesting. It could be very very good, that Witch unit will crush most enemy units that it will encounter at that points level. It also looks like it could be quite fun to play. My biggest concern is also one of the best strengths of the list, the entire list is designed around putting the Witch Elves in combat. That's very good because you have an extremely coherent plan, but the risk is that the list is a one-trick pony. Outside of the Witch Elf block you don't have any real threats, the Dark Riders, Warlocks, and Bolt Throwers will annoy an enemy but are not likely to win a battle. This means that your enemy will be throwing everything they have at the Witches, and the Witches are extremely weak to ranged fire and magic missiles, not to mention the devastation Dwellers would bring. The Witch Elves are also relatively slow being only infantry, so they could possibly be avoided.
That being said, I'm not sure what I'd change! The bolt throwers and Dark Riders will do an excellent job of clearing chaff and countering enemy artillery. My only thought is at 1400 points how much chaff are you actually likely to see? Do you need that much anti-chaff strength in the army, or could you drop some of it and try to get an extra threat in the list to give your opponent more to think about?
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Post by strutsagget on Mar 2, 2019 18:41:09 GMT
That was my idea too but not sure.
I was thinking of dropping sorceress and remove bsb to use hag as general. But think I need that reroll to hold frenzy in check.
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Post by sedge on Mar 2, 2019 18:45:26 GMT
Gleaming Pennant could help if you want to drop BSB. I'm with Imrik on this that the list is a one-trick pony entirely dependent on the Witch Elves. I know that's kind of the point, but I'd probably look to drop the Sorceress and one of the Bolt Throwers to fit an extra combat unit in.
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Post by strutsagget on Mar 2, 2019 18:46:48 GMT
Something like this:
Little Cauldron copy
Dark Elves
Death Hag: Sword of Might 105
• Cauldron of Blood 190
28 Witch Elves: Hag; musician; standard bearer (Standard of Discipline) 353
21 Har Ganeth Executioners: Draich Master; musician; standard bearer (Banner of Eternal Flame) 292
Reaper Bolt Thrower 70
Reaper Bolt Thrower 70
Reaper Bolt Thrower 70
5 Doomfire Warlocks 125
5 Doomfire Warlocks 125
1 400 points
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Mar 2, 2019 19:34:53 GMT
Agree with all points. This last list is itneresting. I'd think of adding a lvl 2 potentially, and removing a bolt thrower to have that 2nd combat unit.
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Post by strutsagget on Mar 2, 2019 20:57:35 GMT
Agree with all points. This last list is itneresting. I'd think of adding a lvl 2 potentially, and removing a bolt thrower to have that 2nd combat unit. Problem is we run 25% lord/heroes. Cauldron caps... Everything is so much easier with 50 😂 |
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Post by crownprinceimrik on Mar 2, 2019 21:25:51 GMT
Ah, yeah, a mage is all I would have suggested to modify that list, but forgot about the 25%. I really like that second list, the magic defense is lacking, but you've still got a strong offensive magic phase for 1400 pts and your CC power is very good. All those bolt throwers will also keep your opponent honest!
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Post by knoffles on Mar 3, 2019 6:51:22 GMT
The second list is also very fluffy with those units and having the Hag as the general.
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Post by strutsagget on Mar 4, 2019 15:11:30 GMT
So second list it is.  |
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Post by strutsagget on Mar 5, 2019 19:11:55 GMT
Thats a list I will not play again. 😂
List one would have been alot better 😁
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Post by crownprinceimrik on Mar 5, 2019 19:34:32 GMT
What happened?
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Mar 5, 2019 20:56:46 GMT
Thats a list I will not play again. 😂 List one would have been alot better 😁 Do explain!
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Post by strutsagget on Mar 5, 2019 21:11:20 GMT
No, I had a very bad dice game but just wished I had a level 4 with dispell scroll. Magic phase was owned by a slann. Also, we rolled scenario 5 and wood with houses in the middle divided the field. I deployed first and had to separate my witches and executioners. And he was then allowed to chaff cauldron for the full game. Wished I had dark riders shots vs skinks. Executioners were executed by ws10 i10 saurus warriors with predatory fighter... Scroll against 12 dice magic turn would have saved me a lot of points.
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