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Post by strutsagget on Apr 18, 2019 13:23:30 GMT
I would say 1200 points is not a very typical game though, it is particularly small and you almost have to reconsider tactics entirely ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Indeed yes ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) but this is maximizing upp to 2400p and nothing special. Just saying it’s in a lot of cases easier to fit some rare hobos. We have very expensive lords and heroes. TestChaos DwarfsDaemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Metal; Chalice of Blood and Darkness 180Infernal Castellan: Battle Standard; great weapon; The Mask of the Furnace 200Bull Centaur Taur'ruk: Blackshard armour; great weapon; Dragonhelm; Dawnstone 220600 points
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Post by KevinC on Apr 21, 2019 1:57:06 GMT
I say the Wolf Rider unit. The extra 'drop' is a very big deal, for one. Second, under 8th edition, I just don't see the practical use of a lone hero on a Wolf. A unit of Hobgoblin wolf riders are slightly more points, but have more wounds and more bow shots. Don't get me wrong...I think lone characters can be effective but they need a little punch & defense (a goblin big boss on gigantic spider, 3 wounds, 2+ armour save, 6 S4 attacks, poison attacks, stomp has a lot of uses). A 2 Wound Khan with a 4+ armour save just dies.
I've fought against Chaos Dwarf armies with multiple Khans on Wolves and merely ignore them (shrug) and if they got in my way killed them (shrug).
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Post by NIGHTBRINGER on Jan 27, 2020 5:31:43 GMT
Wolf Riders themselves are not actually especially cheap and come from the Rare allocation. I think khans coming from hero section hurts as much as wolfs coming from rare. One castellon and a deamonsmith usually fill up the hero section pretty fast. If running a tauruk there is no room for the khans. Last little(1200p) game (big loss against Lizzie’s) I had 5 points left in hero section and 200p left in rare. I would say 1200 points is not a very typical game though, it is particularly small and you almost have to reconsider tactics entirely ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Indeed yes ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) but this is maximizing upp to 2400p and nothing special. Just saying it’s in a lot of cases easier to fit some rare hobos. We have very expensive lords and heroes. TestChaos DwarfsDaemonsmith Sorcerer: Level 2 Wizard; Lore of Metal; Chalice of Blood and Darkness 180Infernal Castellan: Battle Standard; great weapon; The Mask of the Furnace 200Bull Centaur Taur'ruk: Blackshard armour; great weapon; Dragonhelm; Dawnstone 220600 pointsPersonally I find the Rare section of a Chaos Dwarfs army to be the most competitive in terms of unit selection (being taken up a combination of Hellcannons and Destroyers). My games are played at 3000 points and as such I can't imagine approaching the 750 points allotment of heroes. On the other hand, the rare section is a completely different beast as two hellcannons and a Destroyer weigh in at a whopping 745 points! In the case of dual Destroyers, there would be enough points for some wolf riders, but as I've said, I can't imagine exceeding the hero section point allotment, but I always find that I run out of rare points (dual Destroyers + a Hellcannon would be nice!).
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Post by strutsagget on Jan 27, 2020 7:54:03 GMT
NIGHTBRINGER yes I can understand that ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) so I think point limits factor a lot if you run khans or riders. So its more an argue where in your list do you have the points left then which is the better unit if stats/points value.
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Post by NIGHTBRINGER on Jan 31, 2020 6:06:04 GMT
NIGHTBRINGER yes I can understand that ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) so I think point limits factor a lot if you run khans or riders. So its more an argue where in your list do you have the points left then which is the better unit if stats/points value. That's a good point. I can definitely see how in small games, hero points would fill up very quickly. I hadn't really thought of it before because I always play at 3000 points.
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