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Post by tofukyo on Sept 17, 2020 18:11:55 GMT
This is my first list for Bretonnia I have everything bar the trebs but they seems too good not to add so thought 2000pts and I can scale down from there for smaller. Any advice welcome or if I’ve missed something major. Thanks in advance
Bretonnian Lord on horse
Lance, Shield, Gromril Great Helm, Potion of Foolhardiness, Sword of Swift Slaying, Virtue of Heroism
(Joins KotR)
Prophetess on horse
Lore of Life,
Crown of Command, lvl 4
(Joins GK)
Damsel on horse
Lore of Beasts, Prayer Icon of Quenelles
(Joins KotR)
Battle Standard Bearer
Enchanted Shield, Shrieking Blade, Virtue of Duty
(Joins errants)
8 Knight Errant
champ, music, standard Magic : Banner of Chalons
7 KotR
champ, music, standard Magic :Standard of Discipline
10 bowmen : braziers and stakes
10 bowmen : braziers and stakes
10 bowmen : braziers and stakes
5 mounted yeomen
musician
2 trebuchets
8 Grail Knights
musician, standard magic :Warbanner
Total : 1,993
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Post by knoffles on Sept 18, 2020 18:29:55 GMT
The list looks fine. I’d really try and fit in a dispel scroll (something every list probably needs!).
I’m not sure about the benefit of the prayer icon on the damsel. It’s normally used to give men at arms a ward. On the knights it’s only real use is to grant the ward again if they’ve lost it (or to grant it if you didn’t pray at the start of the battle but it’s a rare case that the benefits of doing that outweigh getting all the knights a ward save).
I also question the +1 combat res banner on the grails. I’d use the points saved towards the dispel scroll.
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Post by tofukyo on Sept 18, 2020 21:32:57 GMT
The list looks fine. I’d really try and fit in a dispel scroll (something every list probably needs!). I’m not sure about the benefit of the prayer icon on the damsel. It’s normally used to give men at arms a ward. On the knights it’s only real use is to grant the ward again if they’ve lost it (or to grant it if you didn’t pray at the start of the battle but it’s a rare case that the benefits of doing that outweigh getting all the knights a ward save). I also question the +1 combat res banner on the grails. I’d use the points saved towards the dispel scroll. Yea I thought of the icon specifically for as you mentioned in case they lose the blessing which I guess isn’t too much of an issue overall. So dropping the icon in favour of dispel scroll on you recommendation Also would banner of defence suit the grails better?? Doing those two changes would put me on 1,998pts if my maths is correct. |
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Post by knoffles on Sept 19, 2020 9:39:32 GMT
I’m never sure about the banner of defence on the Grails. Your level 4 is already maxing out their ward save vs S5 magic missiles with her MR2, so the question is whether 30pts to boost the ward to a 4+ vs war machines is worth while. I find it hard not to add it to them in my list building. Grail knights are 38pts each so if it helps save even 1 that is its points made back. Plus they are normally a priority target and doubly so with the lvl4 in there.
Conversely, having the lvl4 with life, means you can regrow the Grail knights so perhaps losing some isn’t as big a deal.
I can only say try it and see if you think it’s worthwhile. Obviously when you take it you won’t need it but as soon as you don’t, that will be the game you really needed it 😂
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Oct 28, 2020 22:07:35 GMT
I understand you taking the lore of life and obviously everything is better with throne of vines - you can pretty much throw six dice at everything with impunity. Thing is, what if you don’t roll ToV or Regrowth? It’s gonna happen.
Personally I like heavens for the signature, the signature on life isn’t that good - situational and more so with Brets blessing.
Not a bad list though, at 2000 points the Grails are expensive but their two attacks more than make up for it.
😃
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Post by tofukyo on Dec 11, 2020 23:00:14 GMT
Cheers guys. Managed to throw down a game and lost not a huge deal but it definitely highlighted some bits I need to improve on just in general game sense. Not bad for my 3rd game of 8th. I went with life lore but will deffo give heavens an outing next time.
My Opponent suggested we try for 2,400 next match so....
I was just going to throw in a unit of 3 peg knights with standard for some quick backfield hunting.
Leaves me with a little over 200 pts so was thinking another unit of 9 Errants. Maybe with errantry banner?
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Jan 27, 2021 22:00:26 GMT
I was just going to throw in a unit of 3 peg knights with standard for some quick backfield hunting. I'd not take the banner in a 3 as the first casualty would be the musician which I think is more useful. Rememer though, these guys can VANGUARD and they get a stomp attack as well. Greg |
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Post by stallion12 on Aug 4, 2021 2:39:57 GMT
Just saw this, not sure if your aware, but you got to many points in rare for 2k. Youd have to lower the grails to 7. How did your 2400 point list turn out?
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Post by tofukyo on Aug 9, 2021 21:19:19 GMT
Just saw this, not sure if your aware, but you got to many points in rare for 2k. Youd have to lower the grails to 7. How did your 2400 point list turn out? Aha yes. I forgot to say, it WAS pointed out before we gamed but my opponent let it be. To be honest even at 7 grails with the banner it’s still 506 in rare so would have to drop to 6 gk. giving 1922 pts and struggling to figure out where to spend the extra from there. The 2400 I didn’t get to try and won’t be able to for the foreseeable future unfortunately due to circumstances the only fantasy player I know I’ve just lost. Actual list wise pretty much what I mentioned. I’m going for a copy of this adding 3 Pegasus with musician, and Lance of 9 Errants, probably errantry banner on those. |
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