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Post by strutsagget on Jan 15, 2021 7:18:03 GMT
I have never used any High Elves named characters so I am curious.
I wonder what named characters are point wise better then a kitted out lord/hero.
I can see Korhil and Caradryan. As they are not super expensive but still bring good rules to the table.
I am skeptical about Teclis and Alarielle unless you tailor your list a lot in their direction I guess but will it make a stronger list over all?
An Archmage with L4, BoH and ToP is 320p.
A kitted out Prince is about 280p.
Alarille is 350p and you need banner for an other 40p and then you get very strong Aug spells so you are all in on Life I guess?
You can recast a spell once and have a 5+ ward.
Teclis is a lavel 5 +1 High or Choose from all 8 lores a spell each is very strong and an extra dispels.
But he is pretty vulnerable.
Tyrion looks super expensive and so do Alith Anar and Eltharion.
This needs Testing!
Please share your feedback.
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Post by Horace on Jan 15, 2021 9:27:55 GMT
Teclis is awesome, really dominates the magic phase. His level 5 plus the magic items he's packing and HE abilities really make him difficult to deal with in my experience. You're right in that he is expensive and also fights like wet paper, but he isn't made for fighting and you don't want him doing that  I've only come up against Tyrion once and he was also difficult to combat. He is again very expensive but if you don't have a kitted counter he just wrecks. He is Asf, WS9, I10 (so always rerolls) and hits at S7 with his magic sword. The tricky thing is his armour and ward though. I just couldn't get at him before he hacked everything to pieces |
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Post by thezildo on Jan 15, 2021 12:14:18 GMT
Tyrion is absolutely nasty in a unit of dragon princes with the BotWD. As previously stated, unless you have something specifically kitted for him, it would be incredibly difficult to kill him. I agree with you that I would rather have an arcade with BoH and ToP. Faced Teclis once or twice and while good, I just needed to get into combat with him and focus attacks to him. Allariel is more of a threat IMO but your mileage may vary depending on play style.
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Post by knoffles on Jan 15, 2021 14:15:01 GMT
I have faced the white lion, alarielle, BoTWD deathstar a few times. It was brutal though in fairness I was fairly new to 8th at the time so was a bit rubbish with chaff and so my opponent (who in fairness was very good), tore through me.
Tyrion has one glaring weakness and that is his attacks are flaming.
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Post by strutsagget on Jan 15, 2021 15:39:34 GMT
I have a hard time to see whats make alarielle better then just a level 4 in a white lion horde?
I am probably missing something but don’t you just want high magic ward save buff?
Or is it threat of 6 dice dweller when the horde approaches and if you go into combat you get minced?
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Post by delflover5000 on Jan 15, 2021 15:59:43 GMT
With Alarielle WL's basically have a great save against literally everything.
3+ 5++ against non-magic ranged
5+ 2++ against magic ranged
5+ 5++ against non-magic combat
5+ 2++ against magic combat
Can't remember if High magic ward stacks with her ability (I hope not), which would be silly. Can also regrowth if going Life
Dwellers below/ Final transmutation is possible the only thing that does note worthy damage to this.
It's probably overkill and the Archmage/BofH/BoftWD might still be better.
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Post by strutsagget on Jan 16, 2021 5:44:25 GMT
Ah I forget her wards save is 5++ to the whole unit.
And I believe it stacks with high magic lore attribute.
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Post by strutsagget on Jan 16, 2021 16:25:48 GMT
So with for anyone finding this thread:
Korhil makes a unit stubborn and has good stats, put him in a unit of Phoenix Gurds.
Caradryan has decent stats and add some MR, white lions benefit from it pretty good.
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Post by sedge on Jan 16, 2021 21:40:34 GMT
So with for anyone finding this thread: Korhil makes a unit stubborn and has good stats, put him in a unit of Phoenix Gurds. Caradryan has decent stats and add some MR, white lions benefit from it pretty good. Yeah, it was poor design that neither worked best with their themed units. |
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Post by knoffles on Jan 17, 2021 11:24:39 GMT
Ah I forget her wards save is 5++ to the whole unit. And I believe it stacks with high magic lore attribute. It’s a ward save so does stack. She can also heal one friendly character, within 12”, of 1 wound each movement phase. The banner of Averlorn is also great if you are running her. I prefer putting it on a separate unit (say swordmasters) and then you get a great bonus to buffing them up. In fairness if I weren’t taking SM I probably wouldn’t bother with the banner. I’m also a big fan of Eltharion. He quite an all round character. Good stats and equipment. The fang sword is excellent (and is argueably a 90pt weapon in itself). His armour granting the 5++ ward to both himself and the mount is also great (Which increases to 4++ vs direct damage spells). One of the few wards to extend to the mount. I also like the increased stats (specifically wounds) on the mount. Making him a lvl2 mage just adds to his versatility. The one oddity about him is, in the options it says, may be mounted on stormwind and take a lance. Considering he can’t use the lance because of his magic weapon, I can’t work out why it added this in. |
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Post by sedge on Jan 19, 2021 13:55:08 GMT
I’m also a big fan of Eltharion. He quite an all round character. Good stats and equipment. The fang sword is excellent (and is argueably a 90pt weapon in itself). His armour granting the 5++ ward to both himself and the mount is also great (Which increases to 4++ vs direct damage spells). One of the few wards to extend to the mount. I also like the increased stats (specifically wounds) on the mount. Making him a lvl2 mage just adds to his versatility. The one oddity about him is, in the options it says, may be mounted on stormwind and take a lance. Considering he can’t use the lance because of his magic weapon, I can’t work out why it added this in. If he gets in combat with Malekith, who uses the destroyer to take out his magic weapon, Eltharion (and Stormwing) survives combat and then charges another opponent, he can whip out his lance like a boss. Niche, but worth it for that one game in 8th where that happens. Whoever that High Elf player is, they're an absolute legend. |
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Post by thezildo on Jan 19, 2021 16:04:47 GMT
I’m also a big fan of Eltharion. He quite an all round character. Good stats and equipment. The fang sword is excellent (and is argueably a 90pt weapon in itself). His armour granting the 5++ ward to both himself and the mount is also great (Which increases to 4++ vs direct damage spells). One of the few wards to extend to the mount. I also like the increased stats (specifically wounds) on the mount. Making him a lvl2 mage just adds to his versatility. The one oddity about him is, in the options it says, may be mounted on stormwind and take a lance. Considering he can’t use the lance because of his magic weapon, I can’t work out why it added this in. If he gets in combat with Malekith, who uses the destroyer to take out his magic weapon, Eltharion (and Stormwing) survives combat and then charges another opponent, he can whip out his lance like a boss. Niche, but worth it for that one game in 8th where that happens. Whoever that High Elf player is, they're an absolute legend. Talk about a Hail Mary... |
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