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Post by Horace on Jul 27, 2021 11:19:22 GMT
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Post by sedge on Jul 27, 2021 12:04:25 GMT
One guy who doesn't feel he was paid enough, and another who found her role had changed when she was off on maternity leave and her duties had been taken on by others in her team - and later got made redundant because of structural/strategic changes at the company. None of that sounds particularly unusual for a large company that's been undergoing big changes in the last few years. There's also two sides to every story, but for obvious HR/legal reasons you can't hear GW's take on these two ex-employees.
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Post by strutsagget on Jul 27, 2021 14:16:36 GMT
Salary for rules writers seems extremely low. Which is sad as that mean they will loose most writers after couple of years and in the end negatively affect the quality of the rules.
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Post by lordofskullpass on Jul 27, 2021 14:59:46 GMT
Not surprised given all big companies are greedy, stingy and self-centred. Nothing new here.
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Post by strutsagget on Jul 27, 2021 17:56:49 GMT
Not surprised given all big companies are greedy, stingy and self-centred. Nothing new here. Don’t believe in that. As that is the same as saying all people are greedy and self-centered. I think GW as most companies are made by people where some department have different approaches then other. In the end GW makes what we want to buy at the prices we are actually willing to pay :/
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Post by lordofskullpass on Jul 27, 2021 19:50:45 GMT
Don’t believe in that. As that is the same as saying all people are greedy and self-centred. Not really, given a lot of people run smaller companies not so obsessed with profit or dominating the market, some run not-for-profit organisations and some don’t run companies at all because they’ve found other ways to be successful. In the end GW makes what we want to buy at the prices we are actually willing to pay :/ That’s debatable given the prices of Forge World models, Finecast and their most recent plastic kits are excruciating 😖
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Post by sedge on Jul 27, 2021 20:19:39 GMT
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Post by mottdon on Jul 28, 2021 11:18:42 GMT
I know that the desire to see your business successful, maximizing profit and showing excellent signs of susainability are foremost among small business owners minds, as are other aspects, and I'm sure that same drive never really goes away, even after the business has grown large and beyond single owner's ability to run by themselves. These owner hire additional staff to help take on the additional roles in the company who show that drive to keep pushing the company to new heights, and they in turn, do the same, etc.
GW is no different. They're just much, much larger. They wouldn't be where they are if they hadn't shown that same drive. Every single company this size WILL have disgruntled employees, which is what is happening here. Stories will always be spun in the complainers favor. As seen here. Fact is, if someone is spending half their time at work, looking at their phone, or talking about being somewhere else, or planning what they'll do for supper, etc., then, yeah, they'll be fired. And I'm sure that from their perspective, they were an exemplary employee. Question is, would they ACTUALLY want someone behaving in the same manner for them, if they were trying to run their own start-up? Probably not.
All this being said, I'm sure GW has LOTS of applicants who are huge fanboys and just excited to "be a part of the game". I'm sure they take full advantage of this, knowing that there's always more fanboys lined up outside, just looking for a way in. I'm sure most mid-level dept. managers think that simply replacing people who want raises, or climb ladders keeps their budgets lower and more impressive to their bosses, but the lost time from production in interviewing, shifting responsibilities and training, costs so much more. Unfortunately, this sort of story happens all the time in major companies. This is nothing new.
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Post by vulcan on Jul 29, 2021 7:10:35 GMT
I know that the desire to see your business successful, maximizing profit and showing excellent signs of susainability are foremost among small business owners minds, as are other aspects, and I'm sure that same drive never really goes away, even after the business has grown large and beyond single owner's ability to run by themselves. These owner hire additional staff to help take on the additional roles in the company who show that drive to keep pushing the company to new heights, and they in turn, do the same, etc. GW is no different. They're just much, much larger. They wouldn't be where they are if they hadn't shown that same drive. Every single company this size WILL have disgruntled employees, which is what is happening here. Stories will always be spun in the complainers favor. As seen here. Fact is, if someone is spending half their time at work, looking at their phone, or talking about being somewhere else, or planning what they'll do for supper, etc., then, yeah, they'll be fired. And I'm sure that from their perspective, they were an exemplary employee. Question is, would they ACTUALLY want someone behaving in the same manner for them, if they were trying to run their own start-up? Probably not. All this being said, I'm sure GW has LOTS of applicants who are huge fanboys and just excited to "be a part of the game". I'm sure they take full advantage of this, knowing that there's always more fanboys lined up outside, just looking for a way in. I'm sure most mid-level dept. managers think that simply replacing people who want raises, or climb ladders keeps their budgets lower and more impressive to their bosses, but the lost time from production in interviewing, shifting responsibilities and training, costs so much more. Unfortunately, this sort of story happens all the time in major companies. This is nothing new. There's ways to generate profit by maximizing sales by having a great product, and ways to generate profit by strip-mining the company for anything worth stripping. GW's not gone as far as it could in maximizing profit in a destructive manner, but actively chasing away talent is never a good idea.
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Post by strutsagget on Jul 29, 2021 12:46:49 GMT
Well GW obviously have made great products as it’s in all time high.
Just because they make what other likes and not me does not make it an evil corp.
Even though I dislike cow elves and shark elves does not mean it is a bad business direction if other do like it.
I just hope enough people buy ToW or GW will definitely think ditching it a good move and leave it as a niche product.
In the end they will produce what we will buy. Only sales can justify bringing it back and have a team keep developing it.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Aug 13, 2021 17:17:29 GMT
Games Workshop is different.
These guys just failed their 5+ payrise roll.
No rerolls.
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Post by mottdon on Aug 14, 2021 12:18:16 GMT
I think of this every time someone talks about GW's practices. Lol. 
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