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Post by a human on Aug 26, 2023 0:13:27 GMT
... They've also already said this is going to be done like Horus Heresy, so a very front heavy release with fewer later mainstream GW releases but a lot of smaller FW drops is more what people should have for expectations to begin with. I don't follow your logic. People reference WH:TOW being treated like the Horus Heresy game. Then they say WH:TOW will not get a lot of support. But Horus Heresy has received a ton of new plastic kits over the last couple years. New marine troops of every armor variant. Upgrade kits with every weapon option in the game. Characters up the wazoo. Tank after tank in plastic. Terminators, jet bikes, dreadnoughts, ets. all in plastic. If WH:TOW gets a similar number of new kits released I'll be ecstatic. they were from the batrayal at calth boxed game iirc which was pre-covid
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Post by Darnok on Aug 29, 2023 8:13:22 GMT
Valrak is saying October release with a Bretonnian force box and a Tomb King force box instead of a combined release box.
I believe it when I see it - but I would be most pleasantly surprised!
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Aug 29, 2023 12:50:49 GMT
I don't follow your logic. People reference WH:TOW being treated like the Horus Heresy game. Then they say WH:TOW will not get a lot of support. But Horus Heresy has received a ton of new plastic kits over the last couple years. New marine troops of every armor variant. Upgrade kits with every weapon option in the game. Characters up the wazoo. Tank after tank in plastic. Terminators, jet bikes, dreadnoughts, ets. all in plastic. If WH:TOW gets a similar number of new kits released I'll be ecstatic. they were from the batrayal at calth boxed game iirc which was pre-covid Betrayal at Calth(MkIV and Cataphractii) was 2015 with Burning of Prospero(MkIII and Tartaros) following in 2016.
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Post by herjan1987 on Sept 8, 2023 19:18:09 GMT
Just a question I have runned a cross a roumor, that there is going be 6 40k chrismass box 4 AoS box and 2 TOW box ( Bretonnia and Tomb Kings ) what are your thoughs?
Also what are thoughts, that TOW will cannabelize AoS or reverse?
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Post by bastardfromhell on Sept 9, 2023 5:19:07 GMT
It would make sense to have those boxes ready for christmas, but they also need to have the rules, indexes, etc. ready. I want to believe the rumors for a 2023 release but the number or even the lack of TOW articles on Warhammer Community make me doubt it.
I don't think TOW will cannibalize AOS or the other way around as the games are for different audiences.
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Post by Darnok on Sept 9, 2023 6:43:08 GMT
... so I am kinda scratching my head how these two rumours line up. Those "Christmas boxes" are on sale way before January, and usually cover armies that are out of the most recent release cycle. Other than Space Marines, those tend to be armies that had their big release the previous year. So putting some pre-release boxes up there would be unprecedented. Does not make it an impossibility though - but I would expect "proper" Christmas boxes for TOW not before 2024.
In terms of overlap with AoS: GW has sold Chaos Daemons with box art for WHF and 40K and both round and square bases for years, so this could be a case of "been there, done that". The factions that spring to mind for TOW are both Warriors and Beasts of Chaos, since these are among the nine core factions. Especially with Beasts you have most (if not all) of the potential TOW range covered already. Dwarfs and Empire both have some kits that will stay in the CoS range and are featered in TOW previews too - so expect these to do double duty as well.
Oddly enough GW has decided to exclude a couple of factions with existing WHF-compatible range and suitable for TOW from the initial lineup. Ogres, Dark Elves, Skaven and Vampire Counts could all easily be done with the currently available models. These are the cases where one would assume GW does not want to have overlap - at least not officially. They must be aware of people wanting to play those armies in TOW, and probably assume it will happen anyway. Maybe a case of "no need to do anything here, rather push other things first". Keep in mind GW wants to sell new products to new customers, not the odd box to people with existing collections.
Either way, I fully expect to see new armies made of "AoS only" models, and I also do it myself already.
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Post by herjan1987 on Sept 9, 2023 10:16:04 GMT
Darnok just remember nothing precedented, with the Old World release. Hey the announced it years before first model showcase. I believe that there is going to be soft launch this year.
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Post by Darnok on Sept 9, 2023 11:13:05 GMT
Darnok just remember nothing precedented, with the Old World release. Hey the announced it years before first model showcase. I believe that there is going to be soft launch this year.
Oh absolutely! I hope it is with us sooner rather than later, and with GW you never know these days.
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Post by herjan1987 on Sept 9, 2023 11:43:26 GMT
Darnok just remember nothing precedented, with the Old World release. Hey the announced it years before first model showcase. I believe that there is going to be soft launch this year.
Oh absolutely! I hope it is with us sooner rather than later, and with GW you never know these days.
Let's not forget the Epic trailer came out of the blue. So let's hope the 40th anneversary video of will be the Settra model with a announcement of the launch date.
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Post by karnus on Sept 9, 2023 12:39:26 GMT
Oh absolutely! I hope it is with us sooner rather than later, and with GW you never know these days.
Let's not forget the Epic trailer came out of the blue. So let's hope the 40th anneversary video of will be the Settra model with an announcement of the launch date. I can imagine it now, a sandstorm is blowing in the orange haze of the late day sun, through the orange glow and gloom a shape appears, a human? No, too imposing. A voice speaks as the sandstorm clears to reveal a desert littered with dead horses and knights, “Settra does not serve… he rules…” fade to black with announcement date. Boom, done, you are welcome GW.
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Post by lost on Sept 15, 2023 3:09:13 GMT
So there are nine armies they are going to focus on at launch correct? Will each of those have an updated TOW army book? Does anyone know if they’ve communicated about making army books for the other races? ie- will there be a demon book eventually? Shaven? Chaos dwarfs?
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Post by Luigino on Sept 15, 2023 3:32:52 GMT
I don't think we even know if we'll be getting army books proper or army lists of various armies, Thamurkan style.
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Post by bastardfromhell on Sept 15, 2023 5:39:30 GMT
So there are nine armies they are going to focus on at launch correct? Will each of those have an updated TOW army book? Does anyone know if they’ve communicated about making army books for the other races? ie- will there be a demon book eventually? Shaven? Chaos dwarfs? Somewhere they mentioned, every army from the last edition will get rules, but the 9 which were mentioned are in focus. So I would assume they release an index for all armies like they did in 6. with Ravaging Hordes or like they started the 8. and 10. edition of 40k. Maybe the said 9 factions will then get an army book. But all that is pure speculation.
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Post by lordofskullpass on Sept 15, 2023 11:12:43 GMT
So there are nine armies they are going to focus on at launch correct? Will each of those have an updated TOW army book? Does anyone know if they’ve communicated about making army books for the other races? ie- will there be a demon book eventually? Shaven? Chaos dwarfs? Somewhere they mentioned, every army from the last edition will get rules, but the 9 which were mentioned are in focus. So I would assume they release an index for all armies like they did in 6. with Ravaging Hordes or like they started the 8. and 10. edition of 40k. Maybe the said 9 factions will then get an army book. But all that is pure speculation. I'm pretty sure in the same article they said that the army lists for all the factions that are not in focus would be free PDFs. Indeed perhaps the starting lists for those factions in focus will also be PDFs (i.e. all known Fantasy factions getting PDFs at the beginning, like 10th Edition 40K), and then when GW give each of those 9 a big release they'll release a full hardback army book for them which will supersede their PDF list.
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Post by thegoat on Sept 15, 2023 19:46:50 GMT
Somewhere they mentioned, every army from the last edition will get rules, but the 9 which were mentioned are in focus. So I would assume they release an index for all armies like they did in 6. with Ravaging Hordes or like they started the 8. and 10. edition of 40k. Maybe the said 9 factions will then get an army book. But all that is pure speculation. I'm pretty sure in the same article they said that the army lists for all the factions that are not in focus would be free PDFs. Indeed perhaps the starting lists for those factions in focus will also be PDFs (i.e. all known Fantasy factions getting PDFs at the beginning, like 10th Edition 40K), and then when GW give each of those 9 a big release they'll release a full hardback army book for them which will supersede their PDF list. Yes, I believe it will be almost exactly like 10th edition 40K. Every faction gets a free pdf list at the launch of the game. Then army books (and new models) will get released for the nine core factions over the course of the edition.
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